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Discussion in 'American Cars' started by Ron Simmons, Oct 27, 2008.
"So where does that leave the 2009 Nissan GT-R? It'll be just fine, we suspect. It delivers similar performance in a package that's far less intimidating and infinitely more usable. Sure, the ZR1 has the capability on the track, but exploiting that performance on the street is another matter. This Corvette will blow anything out of the water in a straight line, but on a twisty mountain road all that power is difficult to harness."
So for any regular person, the GT-R is the way to go! The ZR1 is a great car though, too bad it's $30k more <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/sad.gif"></A>.
"This Corvette will blow anything out of the water in a straight line, but on a twisty mountain road all that power is difficult to harness.
I contend that the differences aren't as great as their numbers indicate. I've driven both these cars. Together. Same road, same time. And there's not a significant enough difference in the way they drive on the street to sway me one way or the other.
Plus, the real world, with its bumps, camber and ruts is a great equalizer. And the GT-R, which is far less compliant, powers through the real world with hardly a nod to its irregularities. Plus, it will always be easier to drive. This is the long way to say that it's just as quick down most roads."
And there's a certain track in Germany that's most quite like a bumpy, twisty, camber-changing mountain road...
Great work by edmunds to dyno-test both of these cars. And the ZR1 is turning out to be a sharper track machine than I'd expected. GM did well to keep the weight distribution balanced. Marginaly better than even the base C6, according to C&D's comparo.
"And don't forget, Nissan has more in store for the GT-R when it comes to performance with the upcoming V-Spec model.
But that's next year. The ZR1 is here now, and there's nothing you can buy that will touch it. Nothing."
Viper ACR? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
Yep, ACR should take it. Would be kinda sad if it didn't!
Our test driver hops in the GT-R, quickly gets up to speed and lays down some solid laps right out of the gate, the quickest clocking in at 1:25.09. He then moves to the Corvette, which takes a little more time to sort out. The lap times drop quickly, though, and the ZR1 finally posts a fastest lap of 1:23.87. Once again, the ZR1 is quicker than the GT-R, but the raw numbers don't tell the whole story because the two cars are completely different animals around the course.
ACR is 1% useable on the streets
Yeah I read that bit. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
should not be compared to ZR-1 or GT-R
1.2 seconds on a 1:2x lap. And that's on the Bridgestones.
Wonder how long it will take Porsche to accuse GM of cheating on the 'Ring. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
I'm starting to get the feeling that understeer is the reason the GT-R is easier to push to the limit.
Nissan GTR's are for homo's.
0-60 in 3.8 for both cars? They can't launch for shit.
No LC. Worried about voiding the warranty.
America against all former balkers eventually shuts everyone up again with the ZR1.
Nissan is also making Porsche look bad with what they have done for $70,000 versus the 911 Turbo. There is no more technology or performance in a Porsche 911 Turbo than a GTR for instance so is the Porsche now just overpriced with a Porsche name as backup?
Is a 911 Turbo really worth $56,000 to $66,000 more than a GTR? Someone here (a Porsche fanatic) please tell me why it is.
I want an ACR vs ZR1 test
I know it sounds cliche but its a Porsche. Pure performance aside, its the whole experience that makes it special.
because you've been in one, but have you been in GTR to have a fair comparo?
the gt-r is a ricer car
The GTR doesnt fit the definition of a ricer
the gt-r is a jap sports car, thats how its a ricer car but tell why you dont think it fits that definition anways i could be wrong
It's the same people that think a $300 Gucci wallet is some how $270 better and more useful than a $30 wallet. And, yes, I was given a GUcci wallet for Christmas. They fall apart just as bad as a $30 wallet when you wash it by accident.