Nurburgring Lap Times

Discussion in 'Car Comparisons' started by ajzahn, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. Nurburgring lap times, most up-to-date list

    CGT is the king badass of all badasses on the ring
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    yes sir <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC=""></A>
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    Why are there so many CGT times?
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    The M3 CSL's time looks pretty impressive.
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    Tested a few times on different days, different track conditions and ddifferent drivers, shows the real potential of that car.
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    it's not impossible...
    Evo VIII is faster and much better handling than Evo VII due to Super-AYC and 6 sp man....
    And Evo VIII MR is also much faster and better than Evo VIII for lighter weight and better suspension....

    Don't forget when Evo VII was being introduced it came with a all new chassis....
    And then when Evo VIII came out the chassis has been improved.
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    M3 GTR beat the CGT??!!!!!
    M3 GTR: 7:06
    CGT: 7:28

    and have they tested the enzo on the ring yet?
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    No prob, the M3 GTR is a race car fitted with race tyres, the CGT a road car wth road tyres and more weight!
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    still no S7
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    I thought the C5 ZO6 was supposed to be better than the C6.
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    I thought the C5 ZO6 was supposed to be better than the C6.
  12. #37 RacingManiac, Nov 5, 2004
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    Barbosa & The ‘Ring
    While Martin Short was sunning himself (on his honeymoon) in the Caribbean at the end of last month, Joao Barbosa was busy driving a Mosler Photon, round the Nurburgring.

    “The track was damp in places, and he had to slow down at one point because of road works (!), but he still set a 7:42 – despite a couple of handling niggles that we’ve sorted out now,” explains Shorty.

    The Photon is the developed MT900S road car, with an upgrade to the Hewland transmission, carbon seats, thinwall subframes, BBS magnesium wheels, titanium springs and carbon fibre bodywork.

    “We’re going back on Monday and Tuesday of next week, to try again,” says Martin Short.

    The 'record' for a road car is Wolfgang Kaufmann’s 7:32.52. What were you driving Wolfgang? A Carrera GT?

    Phil Bennett has lapped the track in a 7:19 in a road legal Radical (in 2003), while recently a Donkervoort apparently lapped in a 7:18.

    If it’s dry at the ‘Ring next week, expect some fireworks. Barbosa was still learning the circuit last month.... while Phil Bennett responds (on the forum) with "if I can get Radical to provide the car I'll re-claim the record at the forthcoming RMA days (next week), weather and God willing."

    So a Mosler MT900S Photon on its initial outing at the Nordschleife sets a 7:42....
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    Thanks for the info!

    So the Mosler MT990S Photon lines up with the Pagani Zonda. Found some figures to compare it to the Enzo, Zonda and CGT:

    Ferrari Enzo
    Curb Weight: 3230 lbs
    Horsepower: 650 bhp @ 7800 rpm
    Torque: 485 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
    0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
    0-100 mph: 6.6 sec
    Skidpad: 1.05g
    Top Speed: 217 mph
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 109 ft
    Slalom Speed: 73.0 mph

    Mosler MT900S Photon
    Curb Weight: 2144 lbs
    Horsepower: 435 bhp @ 6000 rpm
    Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
    0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
    0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
    Skidpad: 1.02g
    Top Speed: 165 mph (aerodynamically limited)
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 100 ft
    Slalom Speed: 74.7 mph

    Pagani Zonda C12-S 7.3
    Curb Weight: 2756 lbs
    Horsepower: 555 bhp @ 5900 rpm
    Torque: 553 lb-ft @ 4050 rpm
    0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
    0-100 mph: 8.7 sec
    Skidpad: .98g
    Top Speed: 200 mph
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 116 ft
    Slalom Speed: 69.3 mph

    Porsche Carrera GT
    Curb Weight: 3042 lbs
    Horsepower: 612 bhp @ 8000 rpm
    Torque: 435 lb-ft @ 5750 rpm
    0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
    0-100 mph: 6.8 sec
    Skidpad: .99g
    Top Speed: 205 mph
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 111 ft
    Slalom Speed: --.- mph

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    The NSX does much faster than the stupid 8:09 you have. It breaks 8 in the video you posted. And don't say oh the video is fake and they cheated because they didn't.
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    The 8:09 was achived in the sport Auto Supertest by Horst von Saurma, before only a 8:33.80 was reported by the Top Gear magazine oct 1997.

    Note that Tope Gear solicited two professional drivers to test the cars above and each car's best times are shown. This, like all tests, are very driver-dependent. Someone who's not familiar with a particular car, just isn't going to be as fast in it. As an example, the other driver of the NSX recorded a time of 8m 57.13... but this included a full 360 degree spin where the driver was quoted as saying he never had to take it out of second gear!
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    I heard in the faster NSX-R lap they skipped counting the initial long stretch.
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    Yup. The video clearly shows the omission of the front straight, and a point to point lap of more than 8 minutes.
  18. #43 supercarlova69, Nov 7, 2004
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    like the facts about the nsx........ and damn those cars in the past sure were fast.great information
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    are they ever going to test it, I was to see what this car can do compared to other exotics
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    Thansk for all the input!

    IŽm currentlyx working on an update of that list including the av. speed, achievement and weight of each car as far as it is available.

    Just tried to split it so that in each group the alpt times can be compared to each other mmuch better.
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    You're such a stats-fanatic <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC=""></A> good to know I'm not the only one.
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    Really interesting to see how the times came down ower the years, how competitive a roiad car versus a Touring car, Group C race car or Formula 1 car is!
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