350 hp. Deal with it.

Discussion in '2004 Pontiac GTO' started by HsvRule, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. Re: 350 hp. Deal with it.

    Theres no reason why this wont run 13's even if it is heavy. In Australia they got 255kw versions of these to run 13's
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from rex4ev</i>
    <b>big horse power with big weight issues. they may have reduced the moneros weight but not enough to make this run low 13's</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->This is a lighter version of the monaro so how could it not do 13's? It will most likely do 12's and with a race car driver 11's.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    oh yeah? how much lighter? oh, you dont know? thats what i thought.

    keep dreaming.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I dont even know if it will be lighter but wuth that much power it will be able to run 13's even if it ways the same as the Holden monaro
     
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    ok heres wat gm had to say:

    "General Motors Press Release 8:00 a.m EST June 20, 2002

    Pontiac Confirms GTO Production



    DETROIT —

    General Motors and its Australian division, Holden, have completed an agreement to return the legendary Pontiac GTO to U.S. highways in late 2003 as a 2004 model. Holden will produce up to 18,000 of the modern, high-performance coupes each year at its Elizabeth plant.

    Bob Lutz, Chairman of GM's North American Operations, was a key player in bringing back the GTO as a modern interpretation of the legendary muscle car. After he drove the Holden Monaro during a recent trip to Australia, he knew he had found a vehicle to serve as the basis for the new GTO. "I love driving this car," Lutz said, raving about the Monaro's 5.7-liter V8, 6-speed manual transmission. "It shares that V8 heritage and a brawny, muscular stance with the classic GTO, and it will make a fine flagship for Pontiac.

    The addition of the 2004 GTO to the Pontiac lineup is a giant step in Pontiac's mission to contemporize the way it expresses excitement for the 21st century. "We want to focus on creating vehicles with a clean, fresh expression of Pontiac styling and provide our customers with a 'total performance' package that delivers both impressive power and superior handling," said Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager.

    "In the 2003 model year, we have the all-new Vibe® and the fresh look of the restyled Sunfire® and Grand Am® SE. We are following that with the totally redesigned 2004 Grand Prix® in the first quarter of 2003," said Myers. "The introduction of the new GTO in late 2003 will be the 'exclamation point" on the exciting evolution of the division, moving Pontiac performance to the next level."

    2004 PONTIAC GTO

    The 2004 Pontiac GTO will share much of the sculpted and clean styling of the current 2002 Holden Monaro CV8 coupe, with unique Pontiac brand character, including a dual-port grille and powered by a specially tuned version of the 5.7-liter LS1 V8 (shared with some models of the Chevrolet® Corvette®) mated to a choice of either a 6-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission. The rear-wheel-drive coupe will feature 17" alloy wheels, 2+2 bucket seating, and a premium sound system with an integrated 6-disc CD changer. Additional performance and feature details are still being finalized and will be released closer to the public unveiling of the GTO at the Los Angeles and North American International Auto Shows.

    HOLDEN MONARO

    The Holden Monaro was originally introduced in 1968 and was immediately lauded as the ultimate high-performance coupe. It was the first all-Australian sports coupe of its type. Strong public sentiment led Holden officials to bring back the Monaro name for its all-new 2001 coupe. Monaro became an instant classic when it was released in Australia last October and has become the most high-profile, sought-after car on Australian roads today.

    GTO HISTORY

    The Pontiac GTO sprang to life in 1963 as a 1964 model. It has been called the most famous muscle car in the high-performance automobile history. Also known as "The Legend" and "The Great One," GTO is the car that started it all.

    Prior to 1964, performance cars were full-size hardtops and sedans with the largest displacement engines available. But, hot rodders had known for years that they could go faster if you put big engines in smaller, lighter cars. Engine swaps were standard operating procedure for this level of car buff, but that was backyard tinkering, not corporate engineering.

    Driving enthusiasts' dreams came true in October of 1963 when the $299.95 GTO option, RPO W62, quietly joined the 1964 Pontiac Tempest®/LeMans® option list. The heart of the original GTO option package was a 325-horsepower 389-cubic-inch V8, a Carter AFB four-barrel carburetor, rear-wheel drive, a hydraulic camshaft, and impressive torque. Other standard features included a heavy duty clutch, heavy duty suspension, dual exhaust, US Royal red-line tires, a 3.23:1 rear axle ratio, twin hood scoops, and an assortment of GTO emblems.

    Before Pontiac ceased production after the 1974 model year, nearly 700,000 GTOs were sold."
     
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    you idiot. this says nothing new!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Umm, the HSV GTS Coupè runs a 13.74 sec. quarter, and it has the 300kW (400HP) version of this V8. On top of that, I doubt it's much heavier than the GTO will be, if at all. The problem with the LS1 is that most of the grunt comes from higher up the rev range, unlike engines like Ford's Windsor, (not used in upcoming AV Falcon,) and this amounts to slower 0-100 kmh and quarter-mile times than perhaps deserved. Ford is planning to introduce a 5.4 litre V8 to combat the LS1 directly, and power figures of 300kW+ are expected, so this should see some impressive things coming from Ford...finally. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    The gto is going to atleast be 3500lbs. or lighter according to a mag. I read.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    It all depeneds on how much it weighs and gearing.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    HsvRules, the HSV GTS (Coupe) runs, 14.2 on the quarter mile, and that has 300kw. I don't think the GTO (Aussie version) will run it in low 13's.

    No Aussie car produced has yet to break 13's.

    If you have evidence that the GTO or GTS pulls 13's, please post it because I would be interested in seeing it.
     
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    this is my estimated performance numbers

    0-60:4.8
    0-100:11.00
    1/4: [email protected]
    top speed:160
    price(base)32,000
    i think this is what it'll probably perform considering weight(bout 3400)and 350HP.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from GTHO</i>
    <b>HsvRules, the HSV GTS (Coupe) runs, 14.2 on the quarter mile, and that has 300kw. I don't think the GTO (Aussie version) will run it in low 13's.

    No Aussie car produced has yet to break 13's.

    If you have evidence that the GTO or GTS pulls 13's, please post it because I would be interested in seeing it.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Car and Driver tested a HSV GTS R 300 sedan and it hit the 1/4 in [email protected]<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 427 Z06</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from GTHO</i>
    <b>HsvRules, the HSV GTS (Coupe) runs, 14.2 on the quarter mile, and that has 300kw. I don't think the GTO (Aussie version) will run it in low 13's.

    No Aussie car produced has yet to break 13's.

    If you have evidence that the GTO or GTS pulls 13's, please post it because I would be interested in seeing it.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Car and Driver tested a HSV GTS R 300 sedan and it hit the 1/4 in [email protected]</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Is that a raceing version of the monaro???<!-- Signature -->
     
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    no its a HSV GTS R 4door sedan(like an M5)it has 402hp and is sold only in australia for about $50,000(US)<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. LS1 power has struck again, delivering yet another fast GM. Hoseman says this car will run high 13's. 350 hp? High 13's? More hp than the SS, which runs low 13's? Please. If you Ford boys feel like talking sh*t, take it to your Ford forums. And I'll say it again. Big hp #'s without a pussy supercharger.

    Supercharge an LS1 and see 500 hp. Said and done. Period.<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. Re: 350 hp. Deal with it.

    vroom
     
  17. Re: 350 hp. Deal with it.

    big horse power with big weight issues. they may have reduced the moneros weight but not enough to make this run low 13's<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Well, I'll take your word for it, but every review of the car I've read, shows low 14's.

     
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    yeah the GTS (Not GTS-R) its only called that in the UK runs best's of 13.5s

    The Monaro version of the 300kw should run roughly the same time, under the right conditions.

    The Pontiac version your getting isn't going to run anywhere near a 12 let alone who ever said a 13. You can dream all you want, but considering we have the cars here on the road your probably best to take our word than your estimates. Estimates dont equal real world figures and the only way you'd get those is by doing your testing involving a downward slope or a cliff.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 1q2w3e</i>
    <b>yeah the GTS (Not GTS-R) its only called that in the UK runs best's of 13.5s

    The Monaro version of the 300kw should run roughly the same time, under the right conditions.

    The Pontiac version your getting isn't going to run anywhere near a 12 let alone who ever said a 13. You can dream all you want, but considering we have the cars here on the road your probably best to take our word than your estimates. Estimates dont equal real world figures and the only way you'd get those is by doing your testing involving a downward slope or a cliff.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    yea 4.8 seconds is only achieved going downhill in a 350hp car the C5 vette with the same power can hit sixty in 4.8.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 427 Z06</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 1q2w3e</i>
    <b>yeah the GTS (Not GTS-R) its only called that in the UK runs best's of 13.5s

    The Monaro version of the 300kw should run roughly the same time, under the right conditions.

    The Pontiac version your getting isn't going to run anywhere near a 12 let alone who ever said a 13. You can dream all you want, but considering we have the cars here on the road your probably best to take our word than your estimates. Estimates dont equal real world figures and the only way you'd get those is by doing your testing involving a downward slope or a cliff.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    yea 4.8 seconds is only achieved going downhill in a 350hp car the C5 vette with the same power can hit sixty in 4.8.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Do you think this car is as fast as the corvette? If you do, you are in for a major letdown. It might be as fast as a z28.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    4.8 for this?? BULLSHIT. You DONT listen do you. I live in Australia, my family owns a holden with a gen III. It isn't going to run anywhere near 4.8 Thats the funniest thing ive heard all week.

    Try that the monaro weighs over 200kg more than the vette for starters smartarse. And when you putting premium sound, leather and everything else in a car any weight reduction is going to close itself out. It won't come in any lighter than 1600kg for my money.

     
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    hahaha! get over it GM fans! this is not going to be as fast as you thought! hahaha!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>hahaha! get over it GM fans! this is not going to be as fast as you thought! hahaha!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    if u dont like it dont post here why dont u just go to your WRX forum and talk about your great WRX there.<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. Re: 350 hp. Deal with it.

    because this car shouldnt be sold as a GTO! sell it, sell it, sell it. just dont call it a GTO. that has been and still is my whole point!<!-- Signature -->
     

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