Among the Gods of Cars

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by viper king, Jan 4, 2004.

  1. Really people are car with 800hp, 235mph and pushes the 0-60 in 2.7 secs come now this car is considered a god. and dont come to me with that this is better bullshit ok? i love all cars the only car i dont like is an ugly one.and no this car aint ugly so dont try to say it is.
     
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    i wouldnt call this a god of cars, simply cuz anything can be tuned to have lotsa hp. the true god of cars is one that is fast fromt he factory, isnt too ungodly expensive, and still somewhat practical. thats is why the porsche turbo is the god of cars.
     
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    like I say, u cant't argue with tastes, and that's what this is all about... The car god would be the one who fills every requisit that a person demand in a car (for ones are o-60 time, for others might be the top speed...), all this in the extreme...
     
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    U KNOW WHO I REALLY HATE

    THOSE PEOPLE WHO BUYS A 1980S PULSA, PUT 18 INCH RIMS ON IT N A MUFFER THEN GOES AROUND THE STREETS THINKING THEIR HARD ****s COZ THEY HAVE A "RACIN MACHINE"

    WHO AGREES WITH ME?
     
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    I agree
     
  6. Porsche aint no gods of cars because it needs TURBO! doesnt have the power and speed of the Mclaren F1.
    Mclaren F1 is the gods of cars because no mods here and its in guness book of world records and remember modifyed cars dont make it there.
     
  7. Porsche aint no gods of cars because it needs TURBO! doesnt have the power and speed of the Mclaren F1.
    Mclaren F1 is the gods of cars because no mods here and its in guness book of world records and remember modifyed cars dont make it there.
     
  8. The book of world records does accept modified cars. The Ram srt10 is basically a modified dodge ram, and it got accepted with the record top speed for trucks @ 154.587 mph.



    As for the Mclaren being the God of cars, the 800tt can beat it.



    Venom 800TT:
    0-60: 3.21
    0-100 mph: 6.6 sec
    1/4 Mile: 10.71 @ 137.6 mph
    Skidpad: 1.06g
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
    Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph


    97 McLaren F1:
    0-60: 3.2 sec
    0-100: 6.3 sec
    1/4 Mile: 11.1 sec @ 138 mph
    Skidpad: .86g
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 127 ft
    Slalom Speed: 64.5 mph



    These are the basic performance specs. for the cars, which shows the 800tt can beat the mclaren at a 1/4 mile drag strip.



    As for a handling track, there are three things that make a car perform.

    1. Acceleration
    2. Braking
    3. Handling


    Lets start with Acceleration.

    0-60 and 1/4 mile times help a little here, but for a Track, the most acceleration that's done is from a certain speed to another.

    For example, when a car comes out of a turn it might come out at 60mph or 100mph then accelerate.
    The car that can go from one designated speed to another the fastest would have the best acceleration for track conditions.

    Ironically, the 800tt and Mclaren do the 1/4 mile at the same speed, they reach 138mph. They also reach 200 mph at almost the same time.

    Here’s what the cars do:

    0-60:
    Both: 3.2

    0-100:
    800tt: 6.6
    mclaren: 6.3


    0-138:
    800tt: 10.7
    mclaren: 11.1

    0-200:
    800TT: 28.2
    mclaren: 28.0


    Now, you get what the cars do from one speed coming out of a turn and accelerating:

    60-138:
    800tt: 7.5
    mclaren: 7.9

    100-138:
    800tt: 4.1
    mclaren: 4.8

    60-200:
    800tt: 25
    Mclaren: 24.8

    100-200:
    800tt: 21.6
    Mclaren: 21.7


    On a track, the 800tt has the acceleration advantage coming out of a turn.


    NOW, braking.

    60-0 braking gives us a good idea of what cars Could do on a track, going into a turn, but to verify this we need multiple times and speeds the cars brake at.


    60-0 braking:
    800tt: 110ft
    mclaren: 127ft

    Ok, this might not mean much. what about 10mph faster?


    70-0 braking:
    800tt: 143ft
    mclaren: 162ft

    Still not good enough? what about braking from 100mph?


    The cars do:
    0-100:
    800tt: 6.6
    mclaren: 6.3

    Did I mention the 800tt is faster from 0-100-0?

    0-100-0:
    800tt: 9.9
    mclaren: 11.5


    That means:

    100-0 braking:
    800tt: 3.3 seconds
    mclaren: 5.2 seconds


    These tests from motortrend and car & driver, show that on a track, if the cars were entering turns from 60, 70, or 100mph that the 800tt could out-brake the mclaren into a turn.


    On a track, the 800tt has the braking advantage going into a turn.


    FINALLY, Handling.

    Handling is what the car does In a turn. If a car has good braking into a turn, and good acceleration off, but can't handle then the driver might have to brake Even more going into a turn, thus slowing down and loosing valuable time.


    The skidpad tells you not only the cars outer limits of handling, but also its controllability as those limits are reached.

    The slalom test quantifies one of the many components of handling: stability during radical transitions.

    For a track, these tests basically translate into, the car with the best skidpad and slalom, can hold better and Faster in a turn:


    800tt:
    Skidpad: 1.06g
    Slalom Speed: 75.1 mph


    Mclaren:
    Skidpad: .86g
    Slalom Speed: 64.5 mph


    On a track, the 800tt Could out-handle.

    FOR THOSE OF YOU who don't think skidpad and slalom numbers mean anything when it comes to the track, here's some tests that prove otherwise.


    1997 MotorTrend Comparison:

    Skidpad 1-3

    Dodge Viper GTS 1.01 g
    Ferrari F355 1.01 g
    Porsche 911 Turbo 1.00 g


    600-feet Slalom(mph) 1-3

    Dodge Viper GTS 73.6
    Ferrari F355 72.1
    Porsche 911 Turbo 69.6


    Track Times 1-3

    Dodge Viper GTS 39.4
    Ferarri F355 39.5
    Porsche 911 Turbo 40.2



    The cars with the most G’s, and slalom speed took top positions on the track



    In the june 2003 issue of MT.
    In thier 10 car shoot-out, they do a test on the track, a figure eight course layout.


    The mosler mt900 photon took 1st

    It accelerated the fastest and pulled the most g's. acceled to 83.6mph, and did 1.14g


    Second the viper srt10

    acceled to 79.3mph
    pulled 1.05g


    Third, lambo murcielago

    77.8mph
    .98g


    4th, vette z06

    75.3mph
    .99g


    And so on.

    Each place you go down for a car, like from 5th to 6th the acceleration gets slower, or the cars didn't pull as many g's.

    The figure 8 track also tests acceleration, braking and hard, long turns in both directions.


    But in that comparison, the cars that pulled the most skidpad G’s, took top places on the track.



    In conclusion, i'll sum it up.

    The three things that make a car perform on a track are acceleration, braking and handling.

    The 800tt can out accelerate the mclaren coming out of a turn, it beats the mclaren from 60-138 100-138 And 100-200 mph.

    Those times simulate what the cars could do coming out of a turn at 60-100mph and accelerating to 138-200mph. This would just about be what happens on any track.


    The 800tt can out brake the mclaren going into a turn, it beats the mclaren from 60-0, 70-0 And 100mph-0.


    The 800tt Could hold in a turn, at a faster speed, better than the mclaren. It has a much higher skidpad, and slalom.
    Once again, for those of you who don't think skidpad and slalom numbers mean anything, look at the Two Comparisons i posted which prove otherwise, because the cars in those tests which did the most g's and highest mph slalom, took top positions on the track.

    (in fact, the gts viper in that comparison did the most g's, highest skidpad, and took 1st on the track)






    So if you say the Mclaren is the god of cars, and the 800tt can beat it, i would say the 800tt (like the thread title says) is "among the Gods of cars"


     
  9. ummm ahem then what are those land speed cars eh there bbcidiot?

    thats right those are caled LAND SPEED RECORDS!

    dam i thoght when you hit puberty youd grow up but i guess you didnt yet.
     
  10. nope!!! the viper will never be the god of all supercars because it does not give the driver all of his needs... the McLaren F1 is fast, quick, beautiful, comfortable, etc.
    and its retarded that you are comparing a crap MODIFIED VIPER to the true god of all supercars and will always will be (which is stock)

    No, I dont hate VIPERS but WHAT I DO HATE IS THAT YOU SUPER VIPER FREAKS THINK THAT VIPERS CAN BEAT ANYTHING, THEY CAN'T... all your giving out are a shitload of tuned up vipers with 1000+ hp

    you want to see performance seach the Dauer 962 LM!!!!
     
  11. #11 1426 cid, Sep 25, 2008
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    "WHAT I DO HATE IS THAT YOU SUPER VIPER FREAKS THINK THAT VIPERS CAN BEAT ANYTHING, THEY CAN'T"





    REALLY, VIPER'S CAN'T BEAT ANYTHING?????????????? What is your opinion based on?

    Because it's proven wrong by THE TEST PROVEN FACTS:





    (MOTOR TREND, 1997)

    Track Times 1-3

    Dodge Viper GTS 39.4
    Ferarri F355 39.5
    Porsche 911 Turbo 40.2



    (MOTOR TREND 2003)

    Second, viper srt10

    acceled to 79.3mph
    pulled 1.05g

    Third, lambo murcielago

    77.8mph
    .98g


    4th, vette z06

    75.3mph
    .99g





    http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/hennesseyperformance/ItemDetail.php?Item_ID=238&cart=nOXqOacW&DoThis=Hennessey+Venom+1000&ActionReq=Where



    (ROAD AND TRACK, SEPTEMBER 2007)


    "The Venom 1000 Twin Turbo is the only vehicle to go head to head with the $1.8 million dollar Bugatti Veyron and beat it in a contest of speed from 0 to 200 mph. "


    First Place, VENOM 1000
    Second, 1001 horsepower Veyron

    followed by:
    Lambo Murci
    Lingenfelter vette
    SLR mclaren
    RUF porsche






    (MOTOR TREND, JUNE 2006)


    "MOTOR TREND Names the Hennessey
    Venom 1000 Twin Turbo KING OF THE HILL
    in it's June, 2006 American Supercar Shootout!"



    "The Venom 1000 Twin Turbo SRT Coupe Takes First Place
    in Nearly Every Performance Test Category"



    "# 0-60 mph: 3.2 sec. (1st Place Overall)
    # 0-150 mph: 10.0 sec. (1st Place Overall)
    # 1/4 mile: 10.5 sec. @ 153 mph (1st Place Overall)
    # Standing Mile: 217.9 mph (1st Place Overall)
    # 60-0 mph Braking: 103.6 ft. (1st Place Overall)
    # 100-0 mph Braking: 288 ft. (1st Place Overall)
    # Chassis Dyno: 977 Rear Wheel HP (1st Place Overall)"







    "all your giving out are a shitload of tuned up vipers with 1000+ hp"



    With that argument, are you going to say that Veyrons suck because they're at 1001 horsepower???







    "YOU SUPER VIPER FREAKS THINK THAT VIPERS CAN BEAT ANYTHING, THEY CAN'T"



    DAMN RIGHT I THINK IT CAN. It's been proven that it can beat anything over and over and over, time and time again.


    JUST LOOK AT ALL THE TEST I POSTED THAT PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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