GTS300 vs FALCON300

Discussion in '1999 HSV VT GTS300' started by erwin, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from greese monkey</i>
    <b>i dont think u ford boys realise how un tunned those buick motors are, they have got shit chips and cams. u could do heaps more with the buick 6 than u could with the ford 6. holden are more into the v8's then the six. i know some 1 with a turbo ford 6 running 13psi and only has 300+ horsepower. the money he spent on it he could get the holden past 400 hp easy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are the weakest link, goodbye.

    The buick six is not untunned, it is a 40 year old design, thats the problem. And as to your mate, he's an idiot, if he doenst even know how to make HP using a turbo, sorry but he's an idiot. When you turbo a car, but bigger exhaust, intercooler, EFI, Have the car dynoed and fuel mapped etc. With this your looking at around 400+hp, thats easily.

    here's what street machine magazine say bout your "detunned" buick.

    "GM’s supercharged V6 Ecotec is simply too low rent and not engineered well enough to sustain significant increases in boost pressure and horsepower."

    THE END<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from greese monkey</i>
    <b>ok, thanks for the wake up call. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    i must have misted that issue of street machine. and my mate is an idiot...

    do any of u boys know about the land rover alloy 3.2 , 3.8 litre v8. i was wonting to know if they are worth doing up to get good hp. im wonting a light motor that can get some hp with out turbo, but love the superchargers. i know that u can get blower kits for v8's but was wondering if their worth the time and efort.
    your help would be nice. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->No mate, I havn't. Becasue I havnt I'm presuming that they are quite rare, therefore sourcing parts could be timely and the purchase of them could be costly.

    What car would you be wanting to do up? As you are obviously a Holden man I would reccomend that you get a torana with a 186.
    I won't more you with lengthy modification options you can do but those engines are pretty good, better than the 202.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Tickford5400</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from greese monkey</i>
    <b>ok, thanks for the wake up call. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    i must have misted that issue of street machine. and my mate is an idiot...

    do any of u boys know about the land rover alloy 3.2 , 3.8 litre v8. i was wonting to know if they are worth doing up to get good hp. im wonting a light motor that can get some hp with out turbo, but love the superchargers. i know that u can get blower kits for v8's but was wondering if their worth the time and efort.
    your help would be nice. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->No mate, I havn't. Becasue I havnt I'm presuming that they are quite rare, therefore sourcing parts could be timely and the purchase of them could be costly.

    What car would you be wanting to do up? As you are obviously a Holden man I would reccomend that you get a torana with a 186.
    I won't more you with lengthy modification options you can do but those engines are pretty good, better than the 202.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    yeah thanks, ive go a genuine gtr,but the wanks that had it before me killed it, they bashed the gauds instead of cutting them to fit flairs, ive got a 173 with triple su's with a 161 head to up compression and will latter be fitting a huge cam. i was wonting to know a good engine for my next torana as this one has no hope of being fully fix(cheaper to bye new body). i was wonting a v motor either a v8 or v6 and pofferably with over head cams. i was just thinking then and thort of the 3.2 v6 that is in the new rodeo's. i donk wont a holden or chev v8 because every man and his dog has 1 with it in.
    what eva motor it is it will end up being supercharged.
    please advise if you's can.
     
  4. Holdens are crap they have to get chev engines and get callaway from usa to biuld it for them. Ford built it hand made and by the way the falcon 300 beats the GTS300 so imagine whatthe xplod xr8 would do to it.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    Oh yeah by the way its half a second faster down a 1/4mile.<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    Mate, if you can read, Ford SUPERCHARGES their V8 engines - Holden doesn't have to. We use other things. And since holdens weigh atleast 1700 kg ofcourse our performance is a bit slow. But that doesnt matter I prefer holdens for their design than speed.
     
  7. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    excuse me but ford has only use a supercharger on one ford and that was the falcon 300 and holden have to use superchargers on there v6's to keep up with the naturally aspired xr6<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from fattie81</i>
    <b>excuse me but ford has only use a supercharger on one ford and that was the falcon 300 and holden have to use superchargers on there v6's to keep up with the naturally aspired xr6</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->hahaha I love it that out XR6 VCT has more power and only one less nm of torque than holdens supercharged Buikc piece of shit.
    Imagine what our Turbo-6 will do!<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    i dont think u ford boys realise how un tunned those buick motors are, they have got shit chips and cams. u could do heaps more with the buick 6 than u could with the ford 6. holden are more into the v8's then the six. i know some 1 with a turbo ford 6 running 13psi and only has 300+ horsepower. the money he spent on it he could get the holden past 400 hp easy.
     
  10. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    ok, thanks for the wake up call. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    i must have misted that issue of street machine. and my mate is an idiot...

    do any of u boys know about the land rover alloy 3.2 , 3.8 litre v8. i was wonting to know if they are worth doing up to get good hp. im wonting a light motor that can get some hp with out turbo, but love the superchargers. i know that u can get blower kits for v8's but was wondering if their worth the time and efort.
    your help would be nice.
     
  11. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from erwin</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from greese monkey</i>
    <b>i dont think u ford boys realise how un tunned those buick motors are, they have got shit chips and cams. u could do heaps more with the buick 6 than u could with the ford 6. holden are more into the v8's then the six. i know some 1 with a turbo ford 6 running 13psi and only has 300+ horsepower. the money he spent on it he could get the holden past 400 hp easy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You are the weakest link, goodbye.

    The buick six is not untunned, it is a 40 year old design, thats the problem. And as to your mate, he's an idiot, if he doenst even know how to make HP using a turbo, sorry but he's an idiot. When you turbo a car, but bigger exhaust, intercooler, EFI, Have the car dynoed and fuel mapped etc. With this your looking at around 400+hp, thats easily.

    here's what street machine magazine say bout your "detunned" buick.

    "GM’s supercharged V6 Ecotec is simply too low rent and not engineered well enough to sustain significant increases in boost pressure and horsepower."

    THE END</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Mate, have the balls and dont use any type of forced induction.
     
  12. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    To people with the Falcon 300: Take out the supercharger and then see how the shitbox performs.
    Have the balls and use no forced induction.
     
  13. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    ahh its not a production car buddy.
     
  14. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Rzeractor</i>
    <b>To people with the Falcon 300: Take out the supercharger and then see how the shitbox performs.
    Have the balls and use no forced induction.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    You shut up

    BA Falcon will have much balls and no forced induction.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    Very smart
    comparing a prototype show car to a PRODUCTION car

    if FOrd have finally waken up and the new Falcon kicks ass
    then thats good
    they have chased Holden and HSV for over 10 years

    Stop fighting holden v Ford and fight the jap craps
    they r the enemy destroying out car culture
     
  16. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    are they not going to be releasing the Falcon 300 soon anyway (not through ford dealers)
     
  17. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    yeh the ford 300 dont exsist does it, even if it did it would be able to match this car
     
  18. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    I presuem you mean wouldn't, but it would, it 300+kW, i'm not sure on exact values, it's a damn quick car, i think it would beat this car and they are being released, but not many.
     
  19. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    I think it would win from torque. Doesnt it have 600nm or something?
     
  20. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    May i remind u that the Ford Falcon 300+ is a PROTOTYPE, and will never be produced, it'd still kick the crap outta the holden
     
  21. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    yes.... and u know this how?
     
  22. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    Good question!
     
  23. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    yea xr6t, im a ford fan but how do you know this? if its a prototype like you say and hasnt been put into production lines then whered you get your figures from?

    i think it would be very close but noone can actually say

    all you holden fans pay no attention to xr6t, he doesnt speak for all of us
     
  24. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    315kW 600NM (concept version)
    360kW 660NM (AEC and production version)

    but the concept it quicker... lol poor aec
     
  25. Re: GTS300 vs FALCON300

    the falcon is lighter and more aero dynamic but has slighty less torque. It does use a lot less fuel though
     

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