Re: It's not all about speed Why you feel the need to compare civics and vipers is beyond me. Sure itÂs an ego-boost when you fly by an $80,000 car in your Civic but it has no relevance whatsoever. The Viper, beyond its performance, is largely an image car. When you roll down Miami in a Viper it says something about who you are. When it was designed, it wasnÂt designed to be run solely on the strip but to satisfy certain other aspects that you would expect to get with a border-line supercar. The Viper, for itÂs intended purpose, is an awesome car just as a Geo Metro is at what it does: fuel economy. If I spent the same amount of money on the Viper as I did the Civic, I guarantee IÂd be able to crank about better performance. If I just played with the gear ratios a bit and slapped a few modifications on, IÂm sure I can transfer the power that allows the SRT-10 to top at 190 and pull that power down to focus on itÂs stock time of 11.77 [email protected] In a sort of a friend of a friend manner, I knew a guy that took a pos station wagon, spent a whole lot of money putting in a brand new engine, making it run off of jet fuel and a host of other customizations. It could easily match a Porsche or maybe in a Ferrari but does that make that pos station wagon equal to that of the Porsche? Hell no. Horse-power and 1/4-mile times do not constitute the entirety of a car. Just because those comments might fly with your import racing buddies does not mean you can get away with making such retarded posts here.