Let me tell you what you get for $55000...

Discussion in '2002 BMW M3 Cabriolet' started by BMWM32Nv, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: Let me tell you what you get for $55000...

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    <b>Yeah you could do that to a lot of cars. No suprise there. Everyone knows that.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Yes, that's my point. I just made an example and there's no need to be smart about it.

    Muscle cars are cheap and easy to tune and there's obviously not a whole lot of people that knows that.


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    MUSCLE CAR = HP

    As an european I don't share your point of view. I'd rather get a prety damn nice M3 cab'.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    U said it SwedeLBROCK, "driving machines", when it comes to handling and everything else thats got anything to do with driving except for pure BHP the chevelle will lose. I'm a big fan of musclecars myself and the chevelle is sweet but the M3 is a real drivers car and it will eat the chevelle
     
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    man, another typical American...or an American wanna be. Gas mileage on the chevelle, not to mention safety, build quility, looks, and the fact that driving one ensures your status as a hick are all huge let downs when compared to any modern car, let alone a BMW.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SwedeLBROCK</i>
    <b>...For 55 grand I'd get a decent $5000 '72 Chevelle SS with the 454 cui...I'd spend the rest 50 grand on engine tuning, racing suspension...and the 30 year old Chevelle will EAT this weak ass BMW any day.

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    You may be right, but the M3 is still the benchmark of modern automotive industry and is still one fine kick ass car.
     
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    <b>Man all you seem to think about is horsepower. Don't you get what luxury, looks, comfort and exclusivity is all 'bout?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Who cares about luxury when it comes to high performance sports-cars/driving machines...

    If I wanted luxury and comfort I'd get Navigator or Escalade or something like that.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    thank you! style over performance anyday. So you have a 1970 beat up piece of junk that can beat an M3, which one do u think is more likely to pick up chicks?? and also, you would pretty much have to buy a completely new engine to tune, so it wouldnt even be the same car. If you did use the original engine it would last for oh.... id say a day<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I dont understand u ppl.

    The M3 is a great car. It the total package among sports cars. But why do u europeans keep trashin american cars, just b\c they have another idea or a different point of view then u ppl.

    Why do the americans trash the M3. They dont know nething about it.
    How did supras come into this conv. I own one, i love them. But i have one question, i also own a modded GSX 1100R. Now when some of u ppl talk about bikes, i dont think u know what ur talkin about. My supra has roughly over 650hp and its nothing compared to my "crotch rocket", which is a #$%#ing amazing ride. And i do pick up plenty of chicks with both. Now to the ppl that think "crotch rockets" are shit. Come here, im gonna slap on a racing helmet on ur head, and make u climb on my bike and we'll see how many times i can make you apologize for ur stupid remarks.

    And to Hocky069, ur an idoit, lets see if u have the balls to ride my bike, and to ride a bike u gotta have skill #%$it.

    P.S. im not american and i also hate nascar.
     
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    You get a good car. not as fast as it could be, but still an awesome car. i mean any joe bloggs with $55K US can get hell fast car, the whoops on the M3, but thats the decision you have to make, i personally caould buid a better can in allmost ALL respects but i mean it comes down to persianl prefference.>>>
    I'd personally get a mad Supra with leather EVRYWHERE fully modded and performance beast, but thats me>
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    I now truely see how stupid some people can be. First off, hockey069, you have to understand the fact that if I were to buy a car for around $5000usd and put $50000 into it, it will without a doubt beat the M3, not to say the M3 is shit. Now to most people this is stupid. If you've ever seen the video where a civic beats a viper you know what I mean. I would take the viper over the civic anyday. Secondly, you knew why I referred to Dr. Dre. Here is a quote from you, "Second, what the hell does Dr.Dre have anything to do with this conversation. THe only reason they have all those old ass cars is because they lived in the ghetto where they were to #$%#in poor to buy a nice car like a BMW so they tried to make shitty old american cars look good but guess what? THEY DIDNT." You just stated why I referred to his videos. It was to give a better picture of what an old muscle car can look like. To you they are ugly, but that is irrelevent because that is your own opinion. Another quote, "Ne ways im sick of you all tryin to say you would rather spend money on a shitty old muscle car than to purchase a M3." You quoted my post yet you still can't understand it. I clearly said, "I would take the M3 over the american car because too much hassle." Maybe you should learn to anaylize what you are reading.
    To Angisio: You're not as bad as hockey069 because you understand that if you put in $55000 into a car it would beat the M3. In this case you would put it into a Supra, which is a very nice car. However, this is your own opinion.
    Please don't just read a post anaylize it.
    Oh and if you did want the ultimate in performance and handling get a sportbike
     
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    Personally, even with 50000 put into a car i wouldnt pick it over the M3. It may not be performance, 0-60, quartermile, amount of leather, or all that other stuff but purely for 2 reasons. First if you have ever driven a BMW it has a totally different expierence from other cars. Just the sound the engine makes send chills in my spine. Second, the prestige. If i drive up to a club i would rather drive up in an M3 than in a supped up mustang. With all of you that would supe up a Supra I totally agree with you. It also is one of my favorite cars. Still i understand it is my opinion but i do not like crotch rockets. To me they are basically bicycles that u dont have to pedal but have a freakin jet engine strapped to them. Makes no sense to me. But you all think what u want, M3's are beast. And im out.
     
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    <b>...For 55 grand I'd get a decent $5000 '72 Chevelle SS with the 454 cui...I'd spend the rest 50 grand on engine tuning, racing suspension...and the 30 year old Chevelle will EAT this weak ass BMW any day.

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    put them on a track other than a straightaway and lets see what would happen
     
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    That last guy had the right idea, listen you can take your american made piece of trash, your mullet, and your wife beater and go do burnouts at the trailer park all night, then you can go have your sister for the rest of the night.

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    Im glad im Canadian on the smart side of North America....

    how the hell can you compare an old shit box american built anything, the amazing refinement of this beautiful machine?

    ur gonna buy a car and put 50 grand into it? then when u try to sell it to another thinks he knows it all like you, you may get 10-15000 for it!hahhaa but you don't tend to live in the real world, where you could get this M3, and sell it again in the mid 40's... but forget money for a second.

    how are you trying to compare a drag racer to an m3??? Who gives a sh*t if your running 10's down a drag strip... you better hope that you don't have to stop.... or TURN! hahah cuz you won't!

    luxury.... nothing to say, cuz even americans know that their cars can't compare to german cars in this category.. even NEW ones... let alone 70's models

    so basically what your saying is that u would waste a good 30 000 dollars, which you proably dont' have anyways cuz your talking really stupid, and stupid ppl usually don't have money. and get a uglier looking car, that can't turn, can't brake, needs maintenance everyother week, has no safety, has nothing basicallly but straight ilne speed, over one of the cars rated "Car of the year"

    if you ever had the pleasure of driving an m3 (i have cab, and hardtop 6 speed AND SMG) i don't think you would of posted such a stupid remark...

    and u said bmw 3 series wasn't safe???
    a crash test website called the 3 series the second safest car of 00... next to the 5 series BMW! hahaha

    now it's the 7 series.. but hey.. what do i know.. im just a Canadian, right?!

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    you guys are always raggin' on the old muscle cars . Exclusivity well muscle cars have that ...The chevelle is a bad example ... in a few year oold magazine i read .. there was a guy who took a 69 dodge dart with a 340 and a few mods to the engine and suspension .. took it racing and were beating porches and vettes .. early 90's ones mind you but still . it got roughly 20mpg on the highway if ya kept your foot out of it. luxury items well the were few and far between but it was cool what they did to it for under 15grand USD
     
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    <b>Comparing any cars of today with cars built before 1995 is comparing apples and oranges. The handling and technology that goes into today's automobiles is so different than vechiles built even 10 years ago. I'm a fan of muscle cars. Nothing beats the groundshaking rumble of a big block. I own an 82' Corvette that I've put a fuel injected 383 stroker in and it puts out well over 400 hp. I know that no matter how much money I pour into my car that it still won't be able to beat a C5 (the new Corvettes) on the track. Maybe on the strip...MAYBE. My cars a hell of alot heavier than the C5 also. To get an old Chevelle or Camaro (even heavier cars) to have the comfort and handling of this car would cost more than 50 grand. Though I personally would rather drive an old Chevelle than a new BMW because the old muscle cars have such a badass attitude.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Thank you. You're so right!
     
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    <b>That last guy had the right idea, listen you can take your american made piece of trash, your mullet, and your wife beater and go do burnouts at the trailer park all night, then you can go have your sister for the rest of the night.

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    Your an ass. If you can't talk about the cars, don't talk. We all like cars, nobody here has a hatred for them. Personal comments about something you don't have the slightest clue about make you asinine. All us North Americans, (Canadian), can ***** about and slander the Europeans, and some of us will, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with a Bimmer vs. a Chevy. Their cars man. Don't be an ass over cars. Every comment i've read of yours in any forum seems to be slandering someone. Some BMW kick ass, and some Chevy's kick ass. I'd just like to kick your ass.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from hocky069</i>
    <b>There are 2 things americans can make when it comes to cars. Trailers and trucks. AMerican cars suck when it comes to reliablity, smoothness, and straight up performance. America is a great country but it will NEVER come close to touching Europe in any class but trucks. ONe more thing, wtf is NASCAR. Its bullshit, a bunch of rednecks driving in circles on engines with fiberglass around them. IF YOUR WANT REAL DRIVERS WATCH SOME RALLY RACING. Other than that BMW is and always will be one of the best cars ever made. Elegant, fast, strong and safe rolled up into one ULTIMATE machine. Alls i gots to say so PEACE</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    this post by itself says it all:
    just to add something though

    How can a 500$ car be exclusive ?? Muscle cars are far off from being luxurious, ever been inside a benz or bimmer in your life ?
    anyway you won't die if your convertible flips over, especially a german car. I'v seen pictures, videos and articles about many convertibles flipping over. If it was lethal then they never would have produced the car. and it wouldn't have passed safety laws <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
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    Being an American I can definitely feel the love of a nice old Chevelle. The pure muscle you feel and hear when you drive one is awesome same w/ most other vintage American muscle cars. But ya still gotta respect the BMW. This car may not have the same heritage but is no less impressive. I would actually take this over any old muscle car unless it was a Shelby Cobra or a GT-500. Now to get to my point. You come into a BMW forum and you put down the car? if ya wanted to bash BMW's and say how crappy they are then start your own thread someplace where you don't sound so ignorant for making comments that just piss off people who want to know more about the car. BMW's are badass and so are muscle cars. If you dont' have anything intelligent to add other than "this car sucks, my 900 hp muscle car would bury it." then maybe you should look into a forum for less mature car enthusiasts. Peace
     
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    <b>you guys are always raggin' on the old muscle cars . Exclusivity well muscle cars have that ...The chevelle is a bad example ... in a few year oold magazine i read .. there was a guy who took a 69 dodge dart with a 340 and a few mods to the engine and suspension .. took it racing and were beating porches and vettes .. early 90's ones mind you but still . it got roughly 20mpg on the highway if ya kept your foot out of it. luxury items well the were few and far between but it was cool what they did to it for under 15grand USD</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Just out of curiosity......what does "A few Mods" entail??
     
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    Why are you people comparing chevelles to m3's? I'm just curious what would lead you to even think about the two cars being in the same class let alone, the same decade...<!-- Signature -->
     
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    There are 2 things americans can make when it comes to cars. Trailers and trucks. AMerican cars suck when it comes to reliablity, smoothness, and straight up performance. America is a great country but it will NEVER come close to touching Europe in any class but trucks. ONe more thing, wtf is NASCAR. Its bullshit, a bunch of rednecks driving in circles on engines with fiberglass around them. IF YOUR WANT REAL DRIVERS WATCH SOME RALLY RACING. Other than that BMW is and always will be one of the best cars ever made. Elegant, fast, strong and safe rolled up into one ULTIMATE machine. Alls i gots to say so PEACE
     
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    Yes,

    You would beat the M3 in acceleration, and if you're lucky top speed (with the BMW's 155 limiter removed). However, the minute you turned the steering wheel in your Chevelle, you would begin to feel the difference between the two extremely different vehicles. The idea of spending $55,000 on a car like the M3 Cabriolet is not to achieve the ultimate 1/4 mile machine but to have an extremely well rounded gran touring car that will whip you around twisty country roads with reliablity and excitement. When you buy a BMW, you are getting a whole package, not just a car that will excell in just one thing. Additionally, if you want to compare an old car like the Chevelle, why don't you compare it to a mid 1970's BMW 2002 turbo (about $6000) with 50,000 invested in it. I'd be interested in seeing the results of such a test, it is a far more reasonable comparison.

    Regardless, I will say that while I drive a BMW 328ic I do have respect for American muscle cars, and the Chevelle is a great looking drag car with a lot of attitude.

     
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    once again: another jealous person dissin' on a car they cannot, and will not ever be able to, obtain. sad<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Uh.. while the bmw M3 cabriolet is one ultimate friday nite car, DOnt understimate the Muscle cars turning abilities when modded. THE FIRST THING that people should upgrade is the suspension tires, axles, wieght distribution. if need be. If properly tuned you could get a classic car that can make numbers in the skidpad beyond 1.05 g. An example take an 90s mustang its old skid pad .80 ish. Modded the new skid pad 1.09 gs not bad at all. With 55 thousand bucks thats a lot of money. If 8 to 10 of that is spend in handling abilities then you can bet it will beat the Stock m3 in the twisties. But then again. One car is stock and one is modded. Both cars really cant be compared itd have to go with depending what you want teh car for. If youre the executive type. The ladies man and they rather have style and flash over performance then M3 is teh car of choice packing a ton of style with a wallop of performance to back it up. But it youre the motor head guy that cares about MPH. THen the modded car is best. Now the guy that called the starter of this forum a redneck who practices incest, You have issues man seek help. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Uh.. while the bmw M3 cabriolet is one ultimate friday nite car, DOnt understimate the Muscle cars turning abilities when modded. THE FIRST THING that people should upgrade is the suspension tires, axles, wieght distribution. if need be. If properly tuned you could get a classic car that can make numbers in the skidpad beyond 1.05 g. An example take an 90s mustang its old skid pad .80 ish. Modded the new skid pad 1.09 gs not bad at all. With 55 thousand bucks thats a lot of money. If 8 to 10 of that is spend in handling abilities then you can bet it will beat the Stock m3 in the twisties. But then again. One car is stock and one is modded. Both cars really cant be compared itd have to go with depending what you want teh car for. If youre the executive type. The ladies man and they rather have style and flash over performance then M3 is teh car of choice packing a ton of style with a wallop of performance to back it up. But it youre the motor head guy that cares about MPH. THen the modded car is best. Now the guy that called the starter of this forum a redneck who practices incest, You have issues man seek help. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Thank you!!!! I could not have said it better myself.
     
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    Jesus christ!!!

    Just because I said that you can get any old muscle car to perform a whole lot better than the BMW E46 for the same amount of money, doesn't mean that I don't like Beamers!!

    Hell, I used to own a 325ic a couple a years ago and I thought it was great, it's just that BMW's are so overpriced and was my point.
     

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