McLaren F1

Discussion in 'Car Pictures' started by Jap Performance Eat Dust, Jan 1, 2006.

  1. still poppin, just shows up here much less. unless its to debunk some misinformation about the Mc
  2. As I approach the age of 33 this August, I think the term you have used is a bit outdated. Not to say that I can't get it up - everything is still working just fine - but anyway... <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>

    I am alive and well - still checking in here from time to time and the passion for the F1 hasn't really wavered in all these years. In fact I just added a rather nice little item to my physical collection of F1 memorabilia. I'll post some pics when it arrives. <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/cool.gif"></A>

  3. Perhaps a really stupid question, but I just found this image of a McLaren F1 in a magazine (dutch autoweek) from 1997. Is this livery real? Because I can't recall any other photos of this car with this same livery...

    Sorry for the scanning quality, but it was cost-effective in the 90s to print stuff on toiletpaper I guess.
  4. Its the original livery of #19R - the 'test' longtail GTR
  5. another really nice one I found
  6. I forwarded an email to be given to the Sultain and asked on behalf of the McLaren F1 followers if he would please release a picture of his black LM.

    Never heard a thing.

    The bastards :p

    Hiding that from the world, shouldnt be allowed !!!!!!!!!!
  7. OH sweet! thx
  8. #733 fred441, Jun 20, 2008
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  9. #734 Peloton25, Jul 7, 2008
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    The first REAL photo has surfaced of one of the Black McLaren F1 LMs! <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/cool.gif"></A>

    Unfortunately the car isn't complete in this shot, but the image does positively confirm the cars existence (it's been denied on multiple occasions) and that indeed they looked like the artist's rendering that we have had for quite some time. <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    I'm so happy to finally have this, but what's funny is that it came from a scan out of a June 1996 issue of AutoWeek Magazine of all places. I probably have that exact issue buried in a box in the garage from when a friend was tossing out his magazine collection and I saved them. I don't think I have looked at them in more than six years, but one of the few McLaren related items that I've been constantly searching for was effectively right under my nose all this time. I can't believe it.

    Giving credit where it's due, this image was first posted here by ArchangelGTR:

  10. #735 Orange F1LM, Jul 7, 2008
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    wow thats awesome.

    Questions though.

    So how many orange ones are there and how many black ones?
    My guess is 3 orange and 2 black

    Werent there supposed to be 5 orange ones to celebrate the five 1995 lemans finishes?

    Why were the black ones made in this color scheme?
  11. Well 6 LMs were built in total, including the LM prototype. Two of the production versions were finished in black like what is pictured above, though one may have had a red stripe instead of the blue you see in that picture. That leaves the other four painted the traditional Papaya Orange. The number 5 didn't so much have to do with the color - it was moreso that they were building one LM for each of the 5 cars that completed the 1995 LeMans 24 Hour race.

    When McLaren announced their plan to build the LMs, I believe they did intend for them all to be identical. However, when you have a wealthy customer like the Brunei Royal Family with tastes for something unique, somtimes you have to compromise the plan which is what it would seem McLaren chose to do. The BRF purchased a total of three LMs - chassis LM1 & LM4 were the black ones and LM5 was the last of their trio which was painted Orange.

    Another great thing about this photo in my opinion is that it proves this was how the cars were originally finished, as some doubters in the past believed the cars could have been repainted for the BRF after they were built.

    McLaren's story in many cases even after all the cars were produced was that all the LMs were painted Papaya Orange and since it was repeated so many times in so many fairly official places, some found it difficult to believe these black LMs really existed.

    Recently McLaren released a book called "McLaren: The Cars 1964-2008" and in that book on the pages devoted to the LM they do confirm the existence of the Black LMs. Its really been the amount of conflicting information and the lack of real photos that have kept this as one of the key McLaren mysteries over the years so it is great to finally put any speculation to the contrary to rest.

    I've been asked many times over the years about the existence of these cars and I've often stated that I believed the real proof would surface eventually. Still though, I am surprised that it finally did and from a US car magazine no less. <A BORDER="0" HREF=""><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/grin.gif"></A>

  12. thank you for your share
  13. Erik, I looked up on Amazon about the new book, and it says it's unavailable right now.

    Where else can I go to get this new book?
  14. I would imagine one of the black LM's would bring in a pretty substantial dollar figure at an appropriate auction.

    I don't know what it is about these Mclaren's that still facinates me to this day but the LM to me is still the ultimate exotic road car over all others by far.

    I just really wish there were more tests of, and video of the LM.

    Someone really has to come out with a well made high definition documentary that runs for about 1 to 2 hours and covers the top end of the current and past hypercar spectrum.

    Id kill to see a high definition up close and personal behind the scenes documentary on the 24 hours of Lemans with tons of in car vid, 1st person pit lane/garage observation, with lots of in car driver commentary etc, night time video etc.

  15. #741 Peloton25, Jul 11, 2008
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    The book "Mclaren - The Cars 1964-2008" is available from and the publisher,

  16. my pics of #12R from GFOS '08

  17. Found a pic of the Clinic Model that made me wonder. As you can see, underneath the engine cover, there's not an empty space. You can see valve covers on the sides, which makes me wonder wether it had no engine, it was a maquette or the engine was there but it wasn't functional. Can anyone confirm any of the situations (or none of them)?
  18. It just wasn't functional
  19. So then there really was a true engine underneath that cover. At which point it wasn't functional (i.e., no ignition or nofuel feed, missing parts)?
  20. When are you buying a real F1?
  21. #749 Jap Performance Eat Dust, Aug 25, 2008
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