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Discussion in '1999 Blitz Skyline GT-R R348' started by Gopesh_M, Aug 10, 2002.

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    it must be reminded to some that a "honadsport" decal on your windshield does not add any horsepower!
     
  2. this fokker needs a bigger wing for one, and the R33 skyline looks tons better.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    shut your mouth. This car is the best skyline, no comparison. The wing is fine too.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Have to agree with impreza.
    Best looking Skyline by far!
    And it moves to <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
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    What the hell are you all on about the wings for, do you all know what it does. Right science lesson here. The wing is like an aeroplane wing, only inverted, in an aeroplane you want a lot of fast air passing under the wing, this creates low pressure above the wing which then provides lift, in a car, you want a lot of fast air passing over the wing, creating low pressure below it and high above it, this adds downforce, which in turn, increases grip and high speed stability, the faster you go the more air you've got going under the car, which creates low pressure above, not something you want, the wing compensates for this as the speed increases. In all, the wing is there as an aid to the car as its speed picks up, you can remove the wing to create less drag, but then you lose the stability and grip at top end, it's a complicated science with views for and against, I guess it depends on what your wanting out of your car.
     
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    All I was sayin' was that a Larger Wing, like GT or Touring Style would look alot better and make this car look even more like a race-car, that's all. A larger wing doesn't have to add more downforce (it can most likely be adjusted) either, and it would only weigh about 5-10 more pounds and therefor the speed would not be affected. maybe it would go 213.0 MPH instead of 213.3, big freakin' deal. You guys need to chill. But I still think the R33 Skyline is the best looking!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Erm...you're wrong again. Adding a wing to a car drastically reduces top end speed. When you add a wing you also increase drag, making it harder for the car to push itself through the air. A good example of this is with the Lamborghini Diablo. The wingless versions go 200mph+ while adding the large rear wing brings the speed down to about 185mph.
     
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    Erm...you're wrong again. Adding a wing to a car drastically reduces top end speed. When you add a wing you also increase drag, making it harder for the car to push itself through the air. A good example of this is with the Lamborghini Diablo. The wingless versions go 200mph+ while adding the large rear wing brings the speed down to about 185mph.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Mick GR</i>
    <b>Erm...you're wrong again. Adding a wing to a car drastically reduces top end speed. When you add a wing you also increase drag, making it harder for the car to push itself through the air. A good example of this is with the Lamborghini Diablo. The wingless versions go 200mph+ while adding the large rear wing brings the speed down to about 185mph.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I believe your wrong on this one bud. Just because the wing is taller, doesnt mean it adds more downforce. Blitz could buy an adjustable wing, and set it to put off as much downforce as the current wing does, therefor not affecting the speed of this car.

    by the way, "Adding a wing to a car drastically reduces top end speed." if you didn't notice, this Skyline already does have a lip spoiler (which is not much different than a wing). so changing from the lip spoiler to a gt or touring style wing wouldn't affect anything on this car!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Actually I'm right. I'll explain. When you change the pitch of a spoiler to a steeper gradient to produce more downforce (adjustable spoilers as you mentioned) you are exposing more surface area of the spoiler to the force of the air passing over it. The greater the surface area exposed, the larger the amount of air it will have an affect on, this results in more air moving faster over the spoiler creating high pressure above it and a lower pressure below. In effect the car is being pushed into the ground, providing better grip and stability. The downside is that as the downforce created by the spoiler is increased due to the increased pitch, which produces more drag, the car has to use more power than it had to previously to reach a certain speed. Ultimately this reduces the top speed. I am right on this one trust me. Beleive me, it took long enough to learn all of this shit through study notes and damn exams. I'm not knocking your comments, not at all, but this is my area of study and I'm quite certain on the science of it.
     
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    a big wing is useless and ugly! The body kit on this thing looks like crap!
     
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    I don't know who I agree with, b/c I like cars with big wing but it does look better than the R34
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Gopesh_M</i>
    <b>a big wing is useless and ugly! The body kit on this thing looks like crap!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    no it doesn't botch.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    *drool*

    this thing is badass, totally badass...

    I still think that the R32's are the best looking Skylines, but this thing is just like....DAMN

     
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    Yeah, but if they even tried to attempt to reach higher speedds they would have to but a race wing on it.
     
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    Big wings on street cars are for gays. I'm talking about the racing-style ones that all these homos put on their civics and integras. If there was a wing on this car it would do something, but they're not worried about stability at 210 because no one drives like that on streets.
     
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    I do!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    YES IT NEEDS A BIGGER WING! BIG WING + STICKERS = FASTAR!!!!
    rofl
     
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    If this wing provided sufficient downforce at the highspeed that this car can travel, then it is perfect. A bigger wing could add un-neccesary weight and may actually reverse the needed effect. So got put a bigger wing on your Civic and see if it makes you go 200mph.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Mick GR</i>
    <b>Actually I'm right. I'll explain. When you change the pitch of a spoiler to a steeper gradient to produce more downforce (adjustable spoilers as you mentioned) you are exposing more surface area of the spoiler to the force of the air passing over it. The greater the surface area exposed, the larger the amount of air it will have an affect on, this results in more air moving faster over the spoiler creating high pressure above it and a lower pressure below. In effect the car is being pushed into the ground, providing better grip and stability. The downside is that as the downforce created by the spoiler is increased due to the increased pitch, which produces more drag, the car has to use more power than it had to previously to reach a certain speed. Ultimately this reduces the top speed. I am right on this one trust me. Beleive me, it took long enough to learn all of this shit through study notes and damn exams. I'm not knocking your comments, not at all, but this is my area of study and I'm quite certain on the science of it.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I know your not dissin' me or whatever you want to call it, but it doesn't make sense to me, that just because a wing sticks farther off the deck of the trunk, even if it is set at the same amount of downforce as the current wing, it would produce more drag or whatever.

    But - "When you change the pitch of a spoiler to a steeper gradient to produce more downforce..." I am not saying add more downforce! Just a taller wing with those cool little winglets on the ends (GT or Touring Style) would make it look more racer-ish, that's all I wanted to say from the start.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Erm....explain how Grizz is correct. You've just agreed with me?????????????????????????????? What planet you from?
     

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