PBB Design Monaco

Discussion in 'Car Pictures' started by basman007, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Hi, I didn't mean to stalk your CyberFooks (of course I immediately started to google the PBB Monaco), but I really want to let you know I like that Mark II of yours <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
  2. #27 MooSquad, Jan 10, 2009
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  3. #28 monaco11, Jan 10, 2009
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    They are both photos of my car... The one without a blinker in the front left is a photo of it during the build and was taken before the side repeaters were installed.
  4. The wife would like me to tell you that the MK2 is for sale mate. :)

    AND Registered in the Netherlands ;-)
  5. I like the looks of these Monaco conversions. Is there a surefire way to tell which are real and which are kits? I know you mentioned the silver emblem on the hood or interior, is that the only true difference?
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  7. #32 monaco11, Jan 10, 2009
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    Owing to the fact that the kit uses the exact same body moulds used to create the originals, there is no way to tell the difference, with the sole exception of the silver badge or plaque.

    The fact that there were so few original Monacos created by PBB Design should make it easy to register the VIN numbers of the originals.

    There was no single engine type, body type or year of manufacture used for the original cars so it's all in the provenance combined with the correct numbered silverware I'm afraid.

    I have just spoken with Tony, the owner of the Monaco Coupe pictured with mine in the pics attached and have confirmed that the car is now resprayed silver (Photos also attached) and is reverted back to the original 3.6L engine etc.

  8. The VIN and the build number have no connection as the VIN is from Jaguar and not PBB Design.

    I have decoded the VINs of the two cars you gave plus that of my own car.

    What I find interesting is that The Sultans' 6.0L Convertible Monaco seems to have had an early facelift 6.0L convertible as it's base because it is fitted with an older 3 speed auto transmission and not the 4 speed with sport mode, fitted to the 6.0L cars for the last couple of years of their production.


    2+2 Facelift convertible
    3.6L engine
    3 speed Auto
    Serial 193339

    2+2 Facelift convertible
    6.0L engine
    3 speed Auto
    Serial 189275

    My Monaco 011 SAJJNAFS4ER190061
    2+2 Facelift convertible
    6.0L engine
    4 speed Auto
    Serial 190061
  9. I think that the engine upgrade was by Roger Bywater of AJ6 Engineering. :)
  10. How do you know that the Sultans cars are Convertibles and not Coupes?
  11. I'm already his friend
  12. I'm e-popular <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
  13. It's all in the VIN numbers my friend! :)

    SAJJNAFS4ER190061 (My VIN)

    SAJ = Jaguar
    J = Jaguar, as opposed to Daimler
    N = XJ-S / XJ-SC
    A = Baseline )Trimm Class)
    F = 2+2 Convertible
    S = 6.0 (XJ-S/XJ12)
    etc. etc.

    The 7th letter of both Brunei VINs is F, showing that they both left the Jaguar factory as convertibles.


  14. So did PBB re-vin the cars then? Or do they still have the original Jag vins?
  15. All the cars still have their original Jaguar VINs.

    PBB created a unique silver plaque for each Monaco they themselves built. This took the form of a silver growler badge on the bonnet/hood with the build number engraved into it for the early Monacos and a silver plaque, mounted inside the cabin, with 3d silver growler head and the build number engraved into it for the later ones (Less likely to be stolen.)
  16. Thanks <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    Can you post a pic of such a plaque?
  17. I will take a photo of my "late style" plaque and upload it by the weekend. I hope that the current owner of 001 will be able to supply a photo of his growler but that may take some time.
  18. #43 monaco11, Jan 13, 2009
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    I found some footage of the Monaco, from my Wedding... The film is 63Mb so takes a little time to download and doesn't show the car at much more than idle but it gives an idea.


    It is also on YouTube in lower resolution :
  19. I like the way the front looks, I want to see a previous gen XKR with that front.
  20. Wow, i haven't seen this topic. What a crazy car you have Monaco11 ! Thanks for your pics !
  21. Ok, so they still have the original Jaguar vin, but a PBB build number. Not that I'll ever need to know that, but still nice to know. Thanks for the info!
  22. monaco11, do you have pictures we can use on supercars.net? It'd be great to feature this car! I have an article of the cars in a magazine called 'top cars'.
  23. Finally I have a picture of the silver plate in Monaco 011.

    I have also located a couple of photos of other monacos, such as photos of the engine of the Monaco which was specificaly built for racing.
  24. Hi Monaco11, I guess you could call me Monaco12 because my bodyshell was being made while your car was being built. I got my fingers burned by Paul Bailey, I ordered and paid for my Compomotive wheels and never received them, I eventually bought them direct from Compomotive at a reduced price because they would have been left with them.

    I am still working on my project car yet,I too like the lines of the mark 2 however I had the Daimler 2.5 V8 version and sold it last year along with my xjs v12 and xjs 4.0 litre. I just cannot get away from jaguar I only have the Monaco and an XK8 now.

    Nice to know that you still own the car, there was supposed to be a magazine article on your car but I never ever saw anything in the mags.

  25. Hi Monaco 11 I guess you could call me #12. My body shell was being manufactured while your car was being built.

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