Re: 186!!!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in '1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR Uhlenhaut Coupe' started by goodcars, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. it didn't go 186
     
  2. 186!!!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

    186 mph?
    for that time?
    most cars had a 90 mph limit!
    5 speed manual?
    most had 4.
    even 3.
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  3. 1930s mercedes and auto unions went 270 mph.
     
  4. Those were the days for Mercedes.<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  5. FordRacing I would like to see a Benz or Union that goes 270 and is over a 70 year old model. Today cars dont even go 270 and technology has greatly increased... LIGHTER CARS with MORE HORSEPOWER = MORE SPEED. There is no way a STEEL 1970 Benz or Union goes 270mph, if there is, please prove me wrong. And to take it a step further, when a company can produce a powerful car like that, the engine would continue to evolve and would still exist today, and Benz cant go 270 today. So, if I'm wrong, prove it, please.<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. yeah, benzes used to be much better than today's
     
  7. why dont they make mbzS a fast as this car today??
    do they want luury instadof speed?
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Vajra</i>
    <b>FordRacing I would like to see a Benz or Union that goes 270 and is over a 70 year old model. Today cars dont even go 270 and technology has greatly increased... LIGHTER CARS with MORE HORSEPOWER = MORE SPEED. There is no way a STEEL 1970 Benz or Union goes 270mph, if there is, please prove me wrong. And to take it a step further, when a company can produce a powerful car like that, the engine would continue to evolve and would still exist today, and Benz cant go 270 today. So, if I'm wrong, prove it, please.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    These cars were purpose built to break the land speed record at the time, that is why today's supercars don't get to these speeds because they are not only built to go on sraight line.

    Weight has nothing to do with top speed if you have a straight long enough.
     
  9. 270 mph is doable for a purpose-built land speed record car. Look at any salt flats racer these days and even the ones with "little" engines run 180 mph. The trick is to minimize drag - weight only enters the picture when accelerating. The '30s Mercs and Auto Unions were incredibly fast because of huge horsepower, skinny tires (read "minimal frontal area"), and no downforce-producing wings and such that, besides improving handling through increased traction, create a lot of drag. Some day I've got to get to a vintage race to hear machines like these go through the gears!
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from maclaren4life</i>
    <b>why dont they make mbzS a fast as this car today??
    do they want luury instadof speed?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    well i dont know if u noticed a differance in the size of the 1930's benz's used for breaking land speed records, and the ones that they manufacturer and sell to the public. ya see the 270mph benz's were looked and were very similar in size to a bob sled. now they also didnt have emissions restrictions like we do today. thats partly why this car could get 108hp/litre, because there was not cat converter. anyways emissions and crash regulations are a HUGE reason why they dont make'em like they used to.<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. #11 McLarenF1Man, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from goodcars</i>
    <b>it didn't go 186</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    It sure did go 186 MPH! At http://neptune.spaceports.com/~kmv2/classics/300slr.html it gives proof that it goes that fast. Also this car is the pinnacle of Mercedes-Benz engineering and perhaps their most beautiful car EVER. I really wish I could have one someday.<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. Im not sure about those stats for the auto unions but i know enzo's 2 engined alfa conversion went faster then them ... and popped its tires causing it to lose but.... That was an intresting time in racing. If rules for f1 now days, were the same as back then (almost anything goes) it would be really intresting to see how the cars would be now. But i guess that saftey and fair play are a little more impotant.
     
  13. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Vajra</i>
    <b>FordRacing I would like to see a Benz or Union that goes 270 and is over a 70 year old model. Today cars dont even go 270 and technology has greatly increased... LIGHTER CARS with MORE HORSEPOWER = MORE SPEED. There is no way a STEEL 1970 Benz or Union goes 270mph, if there is, please prove me wrong. And to take it a step further, when a company can produce a powerful car like that, the engine would continue to evolve and would still exist today, and Benz cant go 270 today. So, if I'm wrong, prove it, please.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    As far as that goes, im not sure about the top sped either. 270 sounds far to fast, but i would like to say that race cars of the time had already beet 200 mph on the track. That goes for benz, auto union and a couple alfas. The acceleration was nothing like that of cars today and the engine sizes were astronomical, not to mention complete lack of saftey, the courses didn't have the same kinds of speed checks as those built in today. Still i agree that 270 sounds to fast. If anyone can tell me where these stats come from i would like to see it.
     
  14. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Vajra</i>
    <b>FordRacing I would like to see a Benz or Union that goes 270 and is over a 70 year old model. Today cars dont even go 270 and technology has greatly increased... LIGHTER CARS with MORE HORSEPOWER = MORE SPEED. There is no way a STEEL 1970 Benz or Union goes 270mph, if there is, please prove me wrong. And to take it a step further, when a company can produce a powerful car like that, the engine would continue to evolve and would still exist today, and Benz cant go 270 today. So, if I'm wrong, prove it, please.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    If u check ur facts, most german cars, with the exclusion of Porsche, are speed restricted to 250km/h. The cars are usually capable of well in excess of these speeds. Also Mercedes has the CLK GTR and CLK DTM cars, which go in excess of 300km/h. Please get ur facts right before openning ur mouth.
     
  15. wasn't this car in money talks when chris tucker and that rich bastard r at the auto auction....or was that just a car similar to this one
     
  16. This car was the first to have direct injection. It came with some hauling-ass features, like (if i'm not mistaken) aluminum body, gullwing doors (obviously), and the all-new conception of engine (it had even desmodromic commands on the beggining).
    The problem is: It's rear suspension wasn't very appropriate for high-speed driving. It's kind of a car made for straights.
     
  17. all i gotta say is that 186 is bloody fast for a 1950's car, just goin back to the subject for a minute...and its only 901kg, thats light as i see it <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">
     
  18. You can actually see some of the old Auto-Union cars and others from that area that went around 240 on this very site. I don't know if they went 270, but i wouldn't discredit it too quickly.
     
  19. Today they have speed checks...but not in the '30s or in 1955. Read what they're talking about before you say they're wrong.
     
  20. i would love to race people in this car in 55' i would win just abou any street race
     
  21. The 155mph rule

    The Green party equivalent is very popular in Germany and one of its demands is that manufacturers limit their top speeds to 155mph. This they do (mostly) but for Porsche.

    The M-B and Auto Union record cars in the 30s did indeed exceed 270mph in a bid for the land speed record. The DB603 would have gone a lot faster but WW2 came along...

    Also, compare the top speeds of similar cars and think of the slippery body- The open and unstable D Type Jags would do 175mph... It's not that surprising really- it is lighter and of similar power to a 911.
     
  22. in the thirties Audis driver Rosemeyer is died at 432,7 km/h
    Thats damn fast.And this cars had no plane engines and so on.
    Why don`t some guys (or gays i don`t no) believe?????????
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  23. damn 2101, u beat me to it, i was just gonna say that!!

    indeed, in a so called 'record week' in 1937, auto union and mercedes brought special versions of their grand prix cars to a strip of the unopened Frankfurt-Darmstadt autobahn

    in late October, Bernd Rosemeyer set a new World Record for the flying mile at 252.47mph (406.29km/h) in a supercharged 6.3-litre V16 auto union

    i dont have the exact figures of the Mercedes runs, just that they beat Auto Union with a 646hp supercharged straight-8

     
  24. I read an article somewhere that Mercedes ran a cool 436km/h-that's more than 252mph.:O<!-- Signature -->
     

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