Re: civic beats a viper

Discussion in '2002 Honda Civic Type-R' started by bob777, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Alright come on now...don't hate on Hondas. If you can make it faster, do it...there's nothing wrong with that! But I must say that I love tons of cars....so be nice! haha :)<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from cHiCkRaCeR99</i>
    <b>Alright come on now...don't hate on Hondas. If you can make it faster, do it...there's nothing wrong with that! But I must say that I love tons of cars....so be nice! haha :)</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I don't hate on Hondas, I hate on idiots who think because they saw TFATF they are the best driver in the world. As it happens, many of these people have approximately NO money and therefore buy what is cheap e.g. Honda Civics. If some idiot weras his hat sideways and flips me off in a Trans Am, a Civic, and a BMW in the same day I don't like the car any less, it's the dumbass inside the car I don't like.
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  3. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b>excellent point, as usual.

    ill drink to that.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->why thank you kind sir<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. yeah I downloaded that video last night from KaZaA. I also dowloaded a cvic beating a vette,it's cool,but the civics are not stock
     
  5. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ModifiedRide</i>
    <b>but the civics are not stock</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Um, I think that would fall under the NO FXCKING SH!T catagory. <!-- Signature -->
     
  6. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SeansVette</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from ModifiedRide</i>
    <b>but the civics are not stock</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Um, I think that would fall under the NO FXCKING SH!T catagory. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->i would go out on a limb and say that most civics shouldnt be stock. the Si maybe, and definitely the CTR, but EX and down, they are a great chassis for a engine swap. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> are they still civics after a swap?<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. depending on what you swap to. If your swapping a D16z 1.6L SOHC Vtec with a B18C 1.9L DOHC Vtec, its still a civic. If your swapping in a Prelude engine, then its a ... prelude??? The Prelude engine is a lot more difficult to swap in. Motor mounts need to be relocated, and the weight balanced is all f'd up (it pushes towards the front of the car which equals major understeer!!). For a 93-95 Civic, the B16A engine is the best buy for a swap. 160Hp at the wheels, plus many Type-R internals will fit with this engine, just check your piston/valve clearance to be safe.

    Im happy that everyone seems to be on the same page on this forum. We seem to be in agreement.. which is cool!!!

    I hate the same bunch of kids in their modded cars at BugerKing as well.. and I try to avoid those types..

    Neons, actually, spec wise, they have a bit more power than a Civic. But I just couldn't see myself driving a Neon.. if ya know what I mean..


    Sleepers are nice. It says a lot about the driver.

    I admit, I used to have about 6 stickers on my car, but took them off after realizing that... they didn't produce any more HP.. HA!!

    Later.<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bleak7</i>
    <b>depending on what you swap to. If your swapping a D16z 1.6L SOHC Vtec with a B18C 1.9L DOHC Vtec, its still a civic. If your swapping in a Prelude engine, then its a ... prelude??? The Prelude engine is a lot more difficult to swap in. Motor mounts need to be relocated, and the weight balanced is all f'd up (it pushes towards the front of the car which equals major understeer!!). For a 93-95 Civic, the B16A engine is the best buy for a swap. 160Hp at the wheels, plus many Type-R internals will fit with this engine, just check your piston/valve clearance to be safe.

    Im happy that everyone seems to be on the same page on this forum. We seem to be in agreement.. which is cool!!!

    I hate the same bunch of kids in their modded cars at BugerKing as well.. and I try to avoid those types..

    Neons, actually, spec wise, they have a bit more power than a Civic. But I just couldn't see myself driving a Neon.. if ya know what I mean..


    Sleepers are nice. It says a lot about the driver.

    I admit, I used to have about 6 stickers on my car, but took them off after realizing that... they didn't produce any more HP.. HA!!

    Later.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->well id say a civic with a B18C engine would be an integra. lightened a bit and less luxury? i dunno. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> and as for the B16, you can still have all the amenities such as P/S and A/C with the B18's, its just that they can cost up to 6 times as much...:(

    neons have more power yes, but seem to be slower still than the DOHC engines from honda. stock for stock that is. a neon's engine is quite moddable, but they are horrible in terms of relibility.

    all the car people hang out at the taco bell/pizza hut (all one building) in this town. in my hometown, i dont know of any makeshift r1cer convention, but theres a sweet car show at the mall every saturday. monster miata, 4 Z06's, 3 S2k's, a couple of ferraris, lots of american muscle, and a couple of times, a XJ220! <!-- Signature -->
     
  9. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bleak7</i>
    <b>depending on what you swap to. If your swapping a D16z 1.6L SOHC Vtec with a B18C 1.9L DOHC Vtec, its still a civic. If your swapping in a Prelude engine, then its a ... prelude??? The Prelude engine is a lot more difficult to swap in. Motor mounts need to be relocated, and the weight balanced is all f'd up (it pushes towards the front of the car which equals major understeer!!). For a 93-95 Civic, the B16A engine is the best buy for a swap. 160Hp at the wheels, plus many Type-R internals will fit with this engine, just check your piston/valve clearance to be safe.

    Im happy that everyone seems to be on the same page on this forum. We seem to be in agreement.. which is cool!!!

    I hate the same bunch of kids in their modded cars at BugerKing as well.. and I try to avoid those types..

    Neons, actually, spec wise, they have a bit more power than a Civic. But I just couldn't see myself driving a Neon.. if ya know what I mean..


    Sleepers are nice. It says a lot about the driver.

    I admit, I used to have about 6 stickers on my car, but took them off after realizing that... they didn't produce any more HP.. HA!!

    Later.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->well id say a civic with a B18C engine would be an integra. lightened a bit and less luxury? i dunno. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> and as for the B16, you can still have all the amenities such as P/S and A/C with the B18's, its just that they can cost up to 6 times as much...:(

    neons have more power yes, but seem to be slower still than the DOHC engines from honda. stock for stock that is. a neon's engine is quite moddable, but they are horrible in terms of relibility.

    all the car people hang out at the taco bell/pizza hut (all one building) in this town. in my hometown, i dont know of any makeshift r1cer convention, but theres a sweet car show at the mall every saturday. monster miata, 4 Z06's, 3 S2k's, a couple of ferraris, lots of american muscle, and a couple of times, a XJ220! </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I have to visit your hometown on a weekend!<!-- Signature -->
     
  10. hey F1 this is fun. i dont really think they are the same person, but i made that name CTR to play around. ive never had another name before. anyways, i know theyll both read this, and i can tell that theyre not the same person from their IP addresses. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> anyways, lets keep bouncing! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  11. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b>hey F1 this is fun. i dont really think they are the same person, but i made that name CTR to play around. ive never had another name before. anyways, i know theyll both read this, and i can tell that theyre not the same person from their IP addresses. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> anyways, lets keep bouncing! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I have another name also. It only has like one post, but I think I'll start using it again. See if you can guess who I am (no checking IP addresses, that's cheating).<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from F1LM My Car</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b>hey F1 this is fun. i dont really think they are the same person, but i made that name CTR to play around. ive never had another name before. anyways, i know theyll both read this, and i can tell that theyre not the same person from their IP addresses. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> anyways, lets keep bouncing! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I have another name also. It only has like one post, but I think I'll start using it again. See if you can guess who I am (no checking IP addresses, that's cheating).</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->lol its not "jap is craP" is it??? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> ugh.<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Boxr4</i>
    <b>Scooter beats Viper!!!!!
    Remote control car Beats Viper!!!!!!

    Wow I'd rather have these awsome machines over a viper too. They are faster so they are sooo much better.

    Now I will go stick my head a little farther up my ass, so I will be able to get more of these Ideas of wisdom.

    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->That's the funniest thing I ever heard of in my life dude.
     
  14. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from F1LM My Car</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b>hey F1 this is fun. i dont really think they are the same person, but i made that name CTR to play around. ive never had another name before. anyways, i know theyll both read this, and i can tell that theyre not the same person from their IP addresses. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> anyways, lets keep bouncing! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I have another name also. It only has like one post, but I think I'll start using it again. See if you can guess who I am (no checking IP addresses, that's cheating).</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->lol its not "jap is craP" is it??? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> ugh.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I think not.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BMW M</i>
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    <b>Seriously Vipers dont handle bad at all, I was suprised at the way it handled.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Try driving it around Sears Point as fast as NASCAR drivers go there. It handles very poorly, and my friend will now never let me drive his Viper again because I ruined his tires and almost dented the car.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper is a shit handler! If you want an American car go for the Vette which handles awesome. The NSX is also a sweeeet handler.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper is not a "shit" handler.

    They score a .96 skidpad rating via the massive tires they have on those. The contact patch on those cars is huge...

    Although you probablly just play GT3 all the time, and can't get the Vipers tail to stay in b/c you have no #$%#ing clue how to drive a car with oversteer(Yeah the back end gets loose b/c you are being WAY too aggressive on the throttle. Can't even begin to tell you how many cars I've seen go into the wall at the track) Look at the Viper GTS-R...I'm sure it got all it's victories on a "shitty" handling platform.

    Also, the oversteer can make the Viper a very fun car to drive, with "Dukes of Hazzard" style powerslides...

    In conclusion: You are an idiot. Shut up. <!-- Signature -->
     
  16. thats okay. hes just not too bright. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Josh6474</i>
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    <b>Seriously Vipers dont handle bad at all, I was suprised at the way it handled.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Try driving it around Sears Point as fast as NASCAR drivers go there. It handles very poorly, and my friend will now never let me drive his Viper again because I ruined his tires and almost dented the car.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper is a shit handler! If you want an American car go for the Vette which handles awesome. The NSX is also a sweeeet handler.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The Viper is not a "shit" handler.

    They score a .96 skidpad rating via the massive tires they have on those. The contact patch on those cars is huge...

    Although you probablly just play GT3 all the time, and can't get the Vipers tail to stay in b/c you have no #$%#ing clue how to drive a car with oversteer(Yeah the back end gets loose b/c you are being WAY too aggressive on the throttle. Can't even begin to tell you how many cars I've seen go into the wall at the track) Look at the Viper GTS-R...I'm sure it got all it's victories on a "shitty" handling platform.

    Also, the oversteer can make the Viper a very fun car to drive, with "Dukes of Hazzard" style powerslides...

    In conclusion: You are an idiot. Shut up. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Are you calling BMW M an idiot or me an idiot?<!-- Signature -->
     
  19. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from XGlite015</i>
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    <b>i seen a stock civic beat a stock viper...at a autocross event</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Yeah right! the driver must high or incredibly stupid! how can a stock civic beat a stock viper, it's impossible, like a deer can outrun a cheetah or an 78 year old man outrun a 26 year old fitness trainer. The driver must be high, incredibly stupid or just wanted to lose purposely.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    If the track was designed to let lighter cars win and there wasn't much room to accelerate between turns the Civic could win.<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from XGlite015</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JDMraceR</i>
    <b>i seen a stock civic beat a stock viper...at a autocross event</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Yeah right! the driver must high or incredibly stupid! how can a stock civic beat a stock viper, it's impossible, like a deer can outrun a cheetah or an 78 year old man outrun a 26 year old fitness trainer. The driver must be high, incredibly stupid or just wanted to lose purposely.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Its called "SKILL"...don't need to have a fast car at a autocross event because all it is, is just a lot of turns and a little bit of straights...if that guy in the viper had any skill, hell yea he can beat a civic, but he didnt have skill so he lost...i also seen ferraris lose to civics( at autocross, not drag)so dont feel bad for the viper

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  21. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cantstopusnow34</i>
    <b>The only thing honda beats anything in is fuel economy</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->um........no?<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cantstopusnow34</i>
    <b>The only thing honda beats anything in is fuel economy</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->o so many ways to make you look like a fool so little time
    umm honda makes the NSX the NSX schools alot of cars
    as well the S2000
    I luv my domestic i just hate stoopid posts
    and you my friend have the stoopidest post of the nite
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  23. We all know hondas are over rated. They are not fast they are slow. How much do you want to spend. Why not go for an old VW easier to customize and cheaper. how about a dail driver that does a 1/4 mile in mid 10. and only 15gs put in total. The Beetle is the original and the only true pocket rocket. I will go against any civic they all suck.
     
  24. Fu ck you and your Herbie the love bug looling peice of shit!<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from The Beetle Man</i>
    <b>We all know hondas are over rated. They are not fast they are slow. How much do you want to spend. Why not go for an old VW easier to customize and cheaper. how about a dail driver that does a 1/4 mile in mid 10. and only 15gs put in total. The Beetle is the original and the only true pocket rocket. I will go against any civic they all suck. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->LOL give it a rest. a BEETLE? LOL!!!<!-- Signature -->
     

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