how can you say a Skyline R34 handles like shit? its one of the most advanced cars or was in thw world, you could barely ge tthe back end out of an R34 with traction control on etc. trust me, ive drove one. what the hell made that bloke think a hsv gts or whatever they are could beat an 800bhp skyline. dang, my nan could run faster than a hsv. you cant say that this skyline with 800bhp produces shit figures? at the end of the day, the skyline isn't a $400,000 super car which only needs 400-500bhp to get to 200mph, its an everyday road car. ok so its more advanced than others but from a straight 6 lump, 850bhp, 0-60 in 3 secs and a top speed of over 200mph is preety good going.