Re: NO SUPERCAR!

Discussion in '2002 Honda Civic Type-R' started by Odin, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. no thank you but im straight F@ggot.



    just ask your mom.
     
  2. your iQ was already at two so now your at zero.
     
  3. no shit sherlock..... that is why the corvette is like 3 times the price and the viper like 5X


    you are lost.


    get out of this forum dumbass
     
  4. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Will938</i>
    <b>I tried to post this a few days ago and it crashed my computer.

    You picked odessys and accords so I ran the numbers on those cars, wanna compare sports cars then throw in some of those numbers.

    Oh yeah, check the stats for those cars 5 years ago when they had some balls....Impala atleast. A '96 Impala SS could kill any of those sedans.

    If it was all that common for cars to fall apart like that then it would be all over the news because only a sucker wouldn't collect on it from the manufacturer. That many and they do a recall.

    Bridgestone made a good product, Ford covered its ass saying they were defective. Ford put down the wrong tire pressures and as a result the tire wore down very fast.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Well, u compare NSX with a mustang GT, a Corvette Coupe. They have almost the same hp, and see which has better performace. I wonder was there a Impala in 96. Yep, the news are all over. Not long ago, Dodge Caravan had cruise control problem. <!-- Signature -->
     
  5. it aint a stock honda in the world that could beat a corvette or viper.
     
  6. NO SUPERCAR!

    It is nice but no it is not a supercar.No Civic can even with $50,000 in modifications.Like the Saturn SL2 CONCEPT.Its not a supercar.Mabye
    its because they are slow!?HUH.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Oh yeah? Then what is a supercar in your view? Like ive said before hondas can eat vipers and stangs for breakfast.
     
  8. I'll pretend you didn't just say that Lotus, maybe, just maybe a mustang in handling but thats it. Hondas are undertorqued econoboxes made for good mpg.
     
  9. This car is ass ugly plain and simple. You could make it as fast as you want but I still wouldn't drive this ugly small piece of shit.
     
  10. same ol crappy posts....... why cant we talk about making cars faster? Like I said before, I could care less about what kind of a car it is, if someone can make it faster.. more power to them.. If a kid spend $10,000 making his Civic run 12's on the 1/4, more power to him... so what?
    Econoboxes, yes..
    Funny, how I just read a post on the FireBird Concept, a guy said, American cars are about power, not looks...
    Torque..oh no, not that again... Yes, if you know what you are doing, you can build a 240-300hp honda Civic, of course they will not have torque.. it all depends on the $$$. You dont need torque with these types of cars... sure they have a hard time going up a hill and they may not beat a 5.0, Firebird, Camaro or whatever, but they are fun as hell to drive. The suspension is very close to that of a BMW... dont laugh, this came from a Lead Ford Technician(from the Ford HQ) who races and builds 5.0's during the summer. He actually had good things to say about Honda... somehow thats hard to imagine.. <!-- Signature -->
     
  11. Not all Hondas are undertorqued. For example, Accord V6, CRV, Odessy, MDX, 3.2TL type S, etc. They have a lot of torque. The Accord has 195 of torque at about 4000-5000rpm. The CRV has 162, Odessy and MDX has 240 at about 4000rpm, but it has 90% of torque from 1500rpm and up.<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. Wouldn't it be fun to make a civic that could actually beat something??? I thought that was the whole point. An accord V-6 does 17's.....undertorqued. An Odessy with 240 torque @ 4000 would only run 18's.....undertorqued. Cute signature on the bottom, most everything on it is opinions or lies.

    Hondas:

    FACT: Honda cars are reliable, great handling, economic.
    OPINION: Fun to drive, easy to drive, nice looking.
    LIE: Fast, endurable.

    Domestics:

    FACT: Fast, heavy.
    Opinion: ugly.
    FLAT ASS OUT LIE: not reliable, poor handling, non-economic, breakdown, have to fix all the time.

    Now I had to ask about this, in my entire life I have never seen or heard or doors falling off, steering wheels falling off, or airbags popping out suddenly. Now gas pedals getting stuck is just bad luck, never happened to me. And what makes you think Hondas are immune from flat tires, EVERY car gets a flat now and then.
     
  13. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Will938</i>
    <b>Wouldn't it be fun to make a civic that could actually beat something??? I thought that was the whole point. An accord V-6 does 17's.....undertorqued. An Odessy with 240 torque @ 4000 would only run 18's.....undertorqued. Cute signature on the bottom, most everything on it is opinions or lies.

    Hondas:

    FACT: Honda cars are reliable, great handling, economic.
    OPINION: Fun to drive, easy to drive, nice looking.
    LIE: Fast, endurable.

    Domestics:

    FACT: Fast, heavy.
    Opinion: ugly.
    FLAT ASS OUT LIE: not reliable, poor handling, non-economic, breakdown, have to fix all the time.

    Now I had to ask about this, in my entire life I have never seen or heard or doors falling off, steering wheels falling off, or airbags popping out suddenly. Now gas pedals getting stuck is just bad luck, never happened to me. And what makes you think Hondas are immune from flat tires, EVERY car gets a flat now and then.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Accords and Odessys aren't sports cars, they are family cars, so u don't need speed, and they have enough power to pass cars on hwy and go up hills. And Odessy is the most powerful minivan in its class while accord has been chosen as one of the 10 best cars and it won first place when compared to Taurus, Interpid, Impala, Regal, XG350, Camry and Altima. And it's funny that even a Korean car can beat all four American sedans. The results are in the December issue of Car and Driver, go check it out urself. If u didn't hear or see any of these accidents happened from American cars, that's becuz it's too common and news won't tell us about it, I got the info from my friends driving American cars. And for the tires, it's not about the car manufacturers, but the tire compannies. Like the Ford Explorer, it's not Ford's fault, but Bridgestone's fault.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. I tried to post this a few days ago and it crashed my computer.

    You picked odessys and accords so I ran the numbers on those cars, wanna compare sports cars then throw in some of those numbers.

    Oh yeah, check the stats for those cars 5 years ago when they had some balls....Impala atleast. A '96 Impala SS could kill any of those sedans.

    If it was all that common for cars to fall apart like that then it would be all over the news because only a sucker wouldn't collect on it from the manufacturer. That many and they do a recall.

    Bridgestone made a good product, Ford covered its ass saying they were defective. Ford put down the wrong tire pressures and as a result the tire wore down very fast.
     
  15. and how big was the engine in those impalas. the new ones are nothing compared to those. like you said in another thread, if the end result is the most important thing, then why dont you go get a big engine off the back of a top fuel dragster and stick it on your 12 speed? because its just not feasible. mustangs are not feasible. neither are camaros, etc. i read somewhere online about a street race between a stock civic EX and a mustang GT. of course, the mustang won, but its top also fell off as it accelerated. the convertible top just got ripped off by the wind. funny. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> AND, i havent seen a honda recall in a VERY long time. as for the other companies...every month there is a new one. like hondarulez said. doors falling off (potentially), etc.
     
  16. 350 LT-1, cheap American power. I can buy one of those engines from a company in Dallas complete for $300. That makes 1hp per dollar, and if you want to build off of that you can sell the internals, because they are already High Performance, and put in better components for VERY cheap.

    I never said end result was the only thing that matters, though I agree with it.

    My post referring to a top fuel dragster was supposed to be sarcastic, but some people didn't see it that way. Then some bone head said it wasn't a fair comparison because his car was tube aluminum. As I am aware they are both tube aluminum.

    If your cars window broke when something hit it would you blame fate or the car company? It seems you people have a different criteria for judging car problems between import and domestic. If it's an import it must of just been some freak thing, but if its a domestic then the damn car company must be cutting corners. Then you stereotype them forever.
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Odin</i>
    <b>pardon me if i seem borish but.... BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT.

    it sounds like you just treat your cars like shit.I bet you leave leave the windows down when it's raining.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> LOL its ODIN!!! just reading your post, my IQ dropped about 2 points. hahaha! anyways, i guess ill reply. my lebaron i had driven about 200 miles when all that happened. the corvette we BABIED, and it just didnt love us back. and the sonoma, well, it was just a POS and deserved to be driven off a cliff

    by you.

    OH ODIN, how i missed you so! now i can make fun of someone who truly shows their ignorance in pride. wouldnt want to make fun of your "grammEr" though. you should be proud, you used punctuation this time.<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from needfaspeedsi</i>
    <b>no shit sherlock..... that is why the corvette is like 3 times the price and the viper like 5X


    you are lost.


    get out of this forum dumbass</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> #$%# you
     
  19. HEH

    I have a point to bring up.
    Done up civics are driven by all young guys (and don't come at me with stupid exceptions like "NO, I'M 35" because you really would be an exception) and girls. They are either a very old person's shopping car or a young person's thrash car. Mustangs, Falcons, SS Commodores and HSV Clubsports and Senators, Camaros, Firebirds, Vipers etc... (muscle cars) are for the slightly older, more mature car enthusiast. The one that's looking for a little bit more. Refined style, bigger and more masculine engine size, bigger noise and bigger power. Basically, the guys who like muscle cars are the guys who have grown up and their taste in cars has matured considerably. The younger guys who like muscle cars have been brought up with muscle cars and have known they're cool to start with.
    Now I'm not putting down jap cars, I love some jap cars as much as I love my big meaty cars and my italian sports cars. The point is that when you grow out of your civic craze you'll realise that there's better stuff out there than noisy, flat sounding little hatchbacks with no power.
    The other day I was driving my '89 Subaru Legacy RS (yeah I love them, they kick ass and they sound meaty) and I lined up at the lights against a Holden VK Commodore with a 308 V8 in it. (That's 5.0l to you who don't know). My car is 2.0 Turbo (with 4wd) and I have never lost in a drag before. My car weighs around the late 1300's in KGs, and the Commodore weighs about 1400. That V8 wouldn't have had much on me in the way of horsepower but he would have had nearly twice the torque. We both launched and we were even in first and second gear, third gear he didn't only pull away, he absolutely smoked me and gained about ten metres on me.
    I love it to bits, but I'm looking at selling my Subaru soon and buying a Holden or a Ford (or maybe a Valiant) because my car has so much maintenance to constantly do on it and because I feel like buying something faster than a japper which doesn't cost stupid amounts of money.
    I paid 10,000 dollars for my car, I can only sell it for 4,500 now, and I will be able to buy an old Commie for about 2,000 and do another 2,500 worth of mods to it and it will be a hell of a lot faster than my subaru.
    (Cars don't have to be new to kick ass)

    Which car is that hot, long legged sexy blonde slut gonna get into when you pull up next to her in town ? That riced up noisy civic or your manly V8 Muscle car with style ?
    ( I think the driver of the Muscle car is going to be in for a very good night ;D )
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  20. THE GUY MUST BE FROM AUSTRALIA WITH THE HOLDEN THING.
    I'M FROM THE GOOD OLD U.S OF A AN I WAS WATCHING
    AUSTRALIAN TOURING CAR AND HOLDEN'S SS COMMODORE[VT]
    KICKS MAJOR ASS. AND IN ANOTHER REPLY TORQUE REALLY COUNTS
    IN RACING. IF A MOD CIVIC WAS AHEAD ON THE STRAIGHT AWAY THE
    MUSCULAR TORQUE AMERICAN CAR WOULD RUN IT DOWN LIKE NOTHING
    AND THAT CIVIC WOULD EAT DUST.
     
  21. You want to know all the problems I've had with my foreign cars???

    My 2000 toyota with only 25,000 miles has a bad U-Joint, bad overhead light, 2 bad seats, bad ac adapter, air leak at high speed, broke lug nut & centercap, broke floor trim, and a broke seat belt. My 1995

    Mazda has 70,000 miles and it has had 2 new McPhearson struts, a new transmission, bad antanne motor, and now I can hear that the valves arn't sitting properly.

    Now my suburban on the other hand....is a 1998 with 148,000 on it. Only been in the shop 3 times, 1 to pull the emergency brake out of the driveshaft, 1 for a checkup, and one for a new hood after the mechanic hit the hood on the garage door during the previous checkup.

    1996 Grand Sport has 46,000 on it and has never been to the mechanic for any reason other than one freak electrical thing that melted a panel, only time to ever happen in a Grand Sport. Had to special order it.
     
  22. mazdas do not count. (supposedly) they have a low resale value and are not very reliable at all. never owned one, so thats just heresay.<!-- Signature -->
     
  23. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Will938</i>
    <b>You want to know all the problems I've had with my foreign cars???

    My 2000 toyota with only 25,000 miles has a bad U-Joint, bad overhead light, 2 bad seats, bad ac adapter, air leak at high speed, broke lug nut & centercap, broke floor trim, and a broke seat belt. My 1995

    Mazda has 70,000 miles and it has had 2 new McPhearson struts, a new transmission, bad antanne motor, and now I can hear that the valves arn't sitting properly.

    Now my suburban on the other hand....is a 1998 with 148,000 on it. Only been in the shop 3 times, 1 to pull the emergency brake out of the driveshaft, 1 for a checkup, and one for a new hood after the mechanic hit the hood on the garage door during the previous checkup.

    1996 Grand Sport has 46,000 on it and has never been to the mechanic for any reason other than one freak electrical thing that melted a panel, only time to ever happen in a Grand Sport. Had to special order it.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    My dad's 1992 accord LX, 1992 NSX, 1998 Camry LE and 1999 Corolla VE have had no problem at all since he bought them,(only the accord had a few problems, but the car would work fine if my dad didn't fix them) my dad just brings the cars to the dealerships and do maintenance as the car's manuals say so. I've never had an American car, but in my signature, I got those info from news. I didn't make them up. <!-- Signature -->
     
  24. my first car:

    1987 Chrysler Lebaron-32k miles (yes, thats 32,000)
    needed, within one month - new coil, fuel filter, struts (front), thermostat, radiator, and HEAD GASKET!!! i said to myself "forget this", and then i bought my VX civic, pre-swap.

    parents (mom/stepdad) cars:

    1997 GMC Sonoma-78k miles
    needed, within one year - new plug wires, front right half-axle, fuel filter, and a valve adjustment

    also 1992 Chevrolet Corvette-68k miles
    needed (ugh), new seals for hard top, new plug wires, replacement popup headlamp assembly, shocks, shift assembly (automatic), air conditioner assembly, and much more that happened after i moved. and corvette parts are expensive

    so thats my experience with domestic cars. my father's 1993 civic EX has 225,000 miles, and it now needs some new brake pads. before that, timing belt changes. THATS IT. regular maintenence.<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. pardon me if i seem borish but.... BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT.

    it sounds like you just treat your cars like shit.I bet you leave leave the windows down when it's raining.
     

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