Re: Sad a Z06 can kill this

Discussion in '2002 BMW M3 CSL Concept' started by SpyderMan!, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. What i just cant understand is that how can anyone compare a big V8 against a relatively small straight 6... are u all retarded or were you dropped too many times as a baby? There is also no (absolutely no) comparisen especially regarding build quality, and, well style etc etc etc ....

    BMW Rules - No Contest.

     
  2. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from nissanZboy</i>
    <b>Also I don't really like the look of the New Corvette coming out. I prefer the older ones.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    for god #$%#in sakes there is no new c6 yet they are computer images in the #$%#ing magizines so just uckin stop it they will be much different lookin and until gm releases stfu!<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. Sad you're a dickhead, more like it. Have u looked at the Z06? it's fugly!! look at this, it's sheer beauty!! i dont care if the Z06 is faster, this is still a pretty good performing car. idiot.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from nissanZboy</i>
    <b>Well I'd prefer the M3, so i doubt the Z06 would kill it</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Is that the most retarded comment I have ever seen in SC history?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Thankyou.... If that's all u have seen then fich dich, i'm a fan of the M3, i love the performance, Z06 is good 2, but I do know more about the M3, my mate has one. It's brilliant. i c all comments liek this all the time, i was just saying i'd prefer the M3, and i don't think it woudl kill it..... you know what, fu k you
     
  5. The 5.4 / 5.6 Mustang engine hes talking about is true. The engien will be shared over from the new australian BA Falcon. power is expecting to be between 260-300+ kw dependign on which model. The XR8 is expected to have around 260kw, while the new GT is expected to be over the 300kw mark.
     
  6. Actually this car would kill a Z06. More power to weight, a revvier engine, a better sequential gearbox - much less lossy, better torque character than a OHV engine, VANOS, and of cousre tons of grip from 19" wheels. This would match or better a Z06 in any gear and any speed and undoubtably outhandle and outbrake it it.
     
  7. our bimma if faar more better car<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. at least some people know what i'm talking about.
    the z06 isn't all that, as it already has an American competitor, with a cheaper price, matching if not beating it.
    This is a nice M series for the BMW, and probably will get a lot of sales.
    I must add, we all know that BMW is a german, but
    , did you know that the L6 wngines are actually built in a factory in Britain?
    Tends to show you sometimes.
    The Brits, know how to make powerful 6s.

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  9. actually I said all NEW V8 stangs are 4.6, and a 2000 cobra R isn't new, plus I don't know who said cobra's are weak so you might be trippin on that. why would you compare a trans am stang to anything in this comparison (ZO6, mustang, and CSL) and I'm pretty sure a C5R would beat a trans am mustang around a track, but I'm not totally sure. I also like how you are talking about all these new mustang motors and comparing them to current GM products, do you think GM isn't going to do the same fuking thing?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from supercar88</i>
    <b>I love the M3 but a Z06 will still kill this and it costs a hell of alot less than this. Who do you think would win?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->i think the z06 can kill you if it runs you over on its top speed. what do you think?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    yeah.. so what a saturn could probably kill him going at top speed(50 mph). what does that have to do with comparing the Z06 to the M3?<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JaguarX</i>
    <b>a z06 now a days, will barely kill anything, yet even beat anything.
    Even the new Mustangs are faster, and more powerful, making the Z06, look, well honestly, old and slow.
    Nice job, by BMW, to keep up with the pace of competition.
    With Jaguar, planning on coming out with is X-Type R in the next year or two (supercharged version) and having in the upwards of 300+ horsepower. It'll be a hard fight.
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    WHAT?! The new Mustangs? The 390 bhp Mustang Cobra won't even beat a regular vette, much less a Z06! 0-60 times below:

    Cobra: 4.9
    C5: 4.8
    Z06: 4.0 - 4.3

    I don't know about the Z06 beating this BMW though, relatively close bhp (345 and 350) and the BMW weighs less.<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from LJFS</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JaguarX</i>
    <b>a z06 now a days, will barely kill anything, yet even beat anything.
    Even the new Mustangs are faster, and more powerful, making the Z06, look, well honestly, old and slow.
    Nice job, by BMW, to keep up with the pace of competition.
    With Jaguar, planning on coming out with is X-Type R in the next year or two (supercharged version) and having in the upwards of 300+ horsepower. It'll be a hard fight.
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    WHAT?! The new Mustangs? The 390 bhp Mustang Cobra won't even beat a regular vette, much less a Z06! 0-60 times below:

    Cobra: 4.9
    C5: 4.8
    Z06: 4.0 - 4.3

    I don't know about the Z06 beating this BMW though, relatively close bhp (345 and 350) and the BMW weighs less.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    the Z06 has 405 hp not 350. you're thinking of the regular corvette and i think this M3 would beat the regular corvette but im not too sure about the Z06<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from LJFS</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JaguarX</i>
    <b>a z06 now a days, will barely kill anything, yet even beat anything.
    Even the new Mustangs are faster, and more powerful, making the Z06, look, well honestly, old and slow.
    Nice job, by BMW, to keep up with the pace of competition.
    With Jaguar, planning on coming out with is X-Type R in the next year or two (supercharged version) and having in the upwards of 300+ horsepower. It'll be a hard fight.
    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    WHAT?! The new Mustangs? The 390 bhp Mustang Cobra won't even beat a regular vette, much less a Z06! 0-60 times below:

    Cobra: 4.9
    C5: 4.8
    Z06: 4.0 - 4.3

    I don't know about the Z06 beating this BMW though, relatively close bhp (345 and 350) and the BMW weighs less.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    "I don't know about the Z06 beating this BMW though, relatively close bhp (345 and 350) and the BMW weighs less". what do you mean 345 and 350 the 2002 Z06 has 405 bhp

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  14. Its probably already been said but, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO STOP COMPARING EVERY CAR TO A Z06. It's a cool car but goddamn its not unbeatable.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from FrankGrimes</i>
    <b>Its probably already been said but, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO STOP COMPARING EVERY CAR TO A Z06. It's a cool car but goddamn its not unbeatable.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    word!<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from supercar88</i>
    <b>I love the M3 but a Z06 will still kill this and it costs a hell of alot less than this. Who do you think would win?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Don't be so daft.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. the C5R, can't beat the Mustang Trans Am, in the track, hasn't done so for the last 2 years. You can check out the specs.
    There is A mustang, that can beat a Vette, the C5R, and based on stats, even against the C6. Don't take my word for it, check out the race results.
    The Cobra R, which came out in 2000, is sill on sale with limited stock from model year 2002. So yes, you can get a Cobra R, a Mustang with a 5.0 engine. Don't forget, mustangs use to be 5.0.
    and if you go to Europe, they do have the 5.4 option available.
    The stang has a different name, and isn't cobra. But i do know its already available.
    What i meant, about cobra being weak, i meant was, it'll be weak in comparison to the next generation Stangs.
    Back to this car and proper discussion...
    I like it, the weight is good, beemer has good rev, which make it unique.
    Please also remember, the Vettes are not cheap.
    the Z06 is a horrible competitor, even with a v8, for it barely matches to the BMW. Quality of the car is far inferior. Even though handling it says to be Corvettes winfall.
    For performance, BMW is the clear winner.
    You might say, the COrvette is a better value.
    Perhaps it's a better value, if you just plan to race the car.
    However, as a true car value, the BMW is far better.
    Therefore, again, the Z06 will not kill the Beemer, the M3 is a super car, and awesome fast car especially for 6. The Z06 better watch out, for even a Mustang will get pass it, by the next model years.
    I think almost everyone will agreement with that statement.<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from HotBoxer</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JaguarX</i>
    <b>a z06 now a days, will barely kill anything, yet even beat anything.
    Even the new Mustangs are faster, and more powerful, making the Z06, look, well honestly, old and slow.
    Nice job, by BMW, to keep up with the pace of competition.
    With Jaguar, planning on coming out with is X-Type R in the next year or two (supercharged version) and having in the upwards of 300+ horsepower. It'll be a hard fight.
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    what stock mustang has more power than the newest ZO6? What mustang stock mustang is faster than the ZO6. Just curious as to where you got your info becuase I've never heard of or seen a mustang available from the factory that is better than a Z06. The CSL would probably win every race with maybe the exception of a drag race.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    teh stang doesn't have more power, and whoever said that doesn't know aht they are talking about... and z06 is much faster than the stang.

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    <b>You know....the ZO6 would more than likely win, unless the 350hp is backed up with 400+ ft lbs.....but i'd much rather wrap my hands around the M3 wheel.......and hey, as far as beating the corvette, thats what mods are for <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    hahahahahahahahahah yeah, then mod the zo6 with that all fancy lingenfelter 427 twin turbo kit. bye bye

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    <b>JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

    I'm so #$%#ing tired of this Corvette can kill BMW discsussion.
    A corvette is a FUCKING corvette. If you want a white trash low
    quality car, then get the #$%#ing corvette. If you want a luxury
    sports car, then get the BMW M3!
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    a 50,000 dollar car white trash, where the hell do you live... around here, white trash is rusted out 80's toyota trecels... pull your head out of your arse

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    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from JaguarX</i>
    <b>a z06 now a days, will barely kill anything, yet even beat anything.
    Even the new Mustangs are faster, and more powerful, making the Z06, look, well honestly, old and slow.
    Nice job, by BMW, to keep up with the pace of competition.
    With Jaguar, planning on coming out with is X-Type R in the next year or two (supercharged version) and having in the upwards of 300+ horsepower. It'll be a hard fight.
    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    the x-type r got cut when ford did all the cost cutting along with the ftype</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    i think the handeling will be about equel... most people dont understand just how well the z036 handels, motor trend or road and track (cant remeber which one) called it one of the best handeling cars they had ever driven

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    <b>first off, what's really sad is that you THINK that a Z06 can beat this. on a track the standard M3 rapes a Z06. of course i'm not even saying anything about the quality and luxury level of the interior, and then there's the back seats in the M3 and yes they do easily fit normal sized people. then you have to see that this is a car with a 3.2 liter engine producing 350 bhp meaning it produces nearly 110 bhp per liter which can only be the product of great engineering. the Z06 pumps out a whopping 405 bhp... but fron a 5.7 liter!!!! that's the product not of great engineering nor of engineering of any kind, it's the product of an american car company saying, as a little twelve year old boy, we want a car that goes really fast and not caring whatsoever how that is achieved. when bmw took the m3 and put in an M5 engine into the M3 (the engine still .8 liters smaller than the Z06's) the M3 put out numbers that would completely embarass the Z06 even in a drag race and i'm not even talking about on the track, where a standard M3 will do to embarass the corvette, so i say to the guy who started this post go back to shooting empty beer cans with your shotgun and riding your pick up truck and everything will be alright, just dont start anymore stupid posts like this.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    one thing that you people dont seem to understand, is that just becuase it doesn't have a great hp/l that it is bad engineering... you have to understand the concept, that it isn't difficult to get alot of hp out of a 5.7 litre... hell, i can get 450 hp out of a 5.7 litre with only $4000, its not like its bad engineering,its not like its difficult, its just that it is a very fast car and they dont feel they need to put any more power into it, and if somebody that buys it wants more power, then, they can do it for themselves
     
  19. and last but not least, like i was saying ealier about the z06's handeling capabilities... the lateral accel is a whopping 1.03g's which is VERY impressive, considering for instance the porsche 911 gt2's is only 1.00g, Lamborghini Diablo VT is only .99g, Ferrari 550 Barchetta Pininfarina 0.93g... now its safe to say that lateral accell isn't everything when it comes to handeling, but it is quite a bit of it
     
  20. I take it back. On the track the M3 would probably win. On the dragstrip I'd think it be close.
     
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    <b>I take it back. On the track the M3 would probably win. On the dragstrip I'd think it be close.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    True!
     
  23. Um...to tell you the truth, I think if somone gave you a ZO6 or the Bimmer you would take it, right? Hands down, no complaints, correct? So why is everyone complaining and starting huge energy wasting arguments about cars they don't even have? Maybe it's the car nut in us but I just don't see the point. Anyway, either car is great and I would have both in my garage if I had the money.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>Hey HotBoxer, your signature is the best quote about an import i've ever heard, esp since i hate civics.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    thanks<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from maksim</i>
    <b>first off, what's really sad is that you THINK that a Z06 can beat this. on a track the standard M3 rapes a Z06. of course i'm not even saying anything about the quality and luxury level of the interior, and then there's the back seats in the M3 and yes they do easily fit normal sized people. then you have to see that this is a car with a 3.2 liter engine producing 350 bhp meaning it produces nearly 110 bhp per liter which can only be the product of great engineering. the Z06 pumps out a whopping 405 bhp... but fron a 5.7 liter!!!! that's the product not of great engineering nor of engineering of any kind, it's the product of an american car company saying, as a little twelve year old boy, we want a car that goes really fast and not caring whatsoever how that is achieved. when bmw took the m3 and put in an M5 engine into the M3 (the engine still .8 liters smaller than the Z06's) the M3 put out numbers that would completely embarass the Z06 even in a drag race and i'm not even talking about on the track, where a standard M3 will do to embarass the corvette, so i say to the guy who started this post go back to shooting empty beer cans with your shotgun and riding your pick up truck and everything will be alright, just dont start anymore stupid posts like this.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Whooop!
     

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