Re: This Car Is A Fraud!!

I'm not a WOP since I never immigrated but I can assure you that USA is grateful that so many Italians did. Look at all the great Americans of Italian decent. Who's your "man of the year"? Give up Rudolph Giuliani. A DEGO!. You are an ignorant moron who couldn't make a "car" point so you resorted to off topic vulgarity. By the way I think gsolinas blew the whistle on Gunther. I'm going to predict it was vader because he is a racist ***** too.

 

I have been gone for a few days and today logged on to read the most disgusting post I’ve ever seen. It screams of ignorance and ill-information. Whoever posted Gunther’s post should know that as a proud American I am denouncing everything you wrote and want to notify those in these forums that aren’t American that we aren’t all that stupid, racist, ignorant, or pigheaded. And Vader, living in Carlisle surely you’ve visited Philadelphia. The city has a huge Italian American population. Why don’t you go to Philadelphia’s Little Italy and use words like “wop” and “dego”. You’d find yourself in the back of a dumpster missing a tongue and maybe a limb. If you have a descent argument about a car post it. I’d love to read it. But posting shit like that gives us real Americans a bad name. So stop.

 

I'm not racist. I have nothing against Italians. I do have something against people, no matter their background, that start threads in a forum of a car they don't like and spew nothing but trash about the car and insults to the people of the country that the car came from. This is exactly what gsolinas did with this thread. Again I have nothing against Italians or Italian-Americans. One of my good friends is from Italian decent. As I said in a previous post "I usually don't use ethnic slurs" and I don't. You will not find an ethnic slur in one of my posts anywhere else on this site. And the slurs in my previous post were quoted, someone else said it first and I thought the shoe fit gsolinas foot for being a closed-minded ass. But the fact that gsolinas is Italian has nothing to do with why I dislike his attitude in this forum. Yes that's right, IN THIS FORUM. I have no idea what kind of person he is in real life but if I had to base what I think of him solely on his posts, I'd say he's closed-minded, arrogant, pig-headed, stubborn, and bitchy. I will be done arguing with you and your friends when you stop spewing bullsh!t about a car you don't like. This is an awesome car but, no, it is not the best. No car is "the best" they all have their strenghts (except Yugo, and I think we can all agree on that)

gsolinas, I'm through arguing with you (unless you start to talk down Americans again). Nothing againt Italy or it's people, but if you like Italian cars and dislike American, then stay on you're ground. You will not find a single post from me in ANY import forum that bashes on a car or a country or it's people. If you still feel the need to fight though just let me know when you'll be here. [email protected] is my email address. Until then, have a glorious day!<!-- Signature -->

 

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In other words, you're more than willing to introduce these figures as evidence? Figures from an unnamed French magazine quoted on a website that does no performance testing of vehicles? OK...

 

Don't act so innocent gsolinas, you provoked everything that has come up. You didn't say anything to the likes of, "Yes this car is fast, but certainly you must see that in a tight course the XXXXXXXX would be the victor?", more like, "You ignorant bastard, if you wern't so stupid you would see that I'm right and the Ferrari would destroy this in everyway possible exept for top speed which isn't really a concern anyway."

People didn't just get pissed off at you because you thought you proved them wrong, they got pissed because of your attitude.

 

Its funny how he has to go out of his way, and proclaim that this car isn't great. Gsolinas wouldn't do that if he wasn't scared of it. Poor kid, why don't you just go home? <!-- Signature -->

 

I'm sure that this has been brought up, but this is not a fraud. This is the world's fastest street legal car ever tested. And the amazing thing is, John Lingenfelter actually drove it up to that speed, something probably the next ten to fifteen runners up for top speed can't say. Also, Callaway made relatively minor modifications to a stock Vette to get this finished product. Unfortunately for Callaway, nobody who wanted a Corvette could afford $400 grand, and guys who wanted fast acceleration and high top speed went to exotic car companies. Maybe it was just to good to be true, maybe the Corvette apperance wasn't enough for those with big egos to support, but whatever happened that there was only one of these made, it was sad. I would give my friend's left nut for this car.<!-- Signature -->

 

It isn't the fastest in the world, it was the fastest at the time. And at the time a stock Corvette could probably be purchased in the US for $20,000 to $30,000US. This one was $400,000. I think that $370,000 worth of modifications are a little more than "relatively moderate". It was also reported that the Diablo Gemballa VT Roadster was taken up to 255 mph in France.

http://www.lambocars.com/diablo/gemballad.htm
Check it out.

 

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<b>It isn't the fastest in the world, it was the fastest at the time. And at the time a stock Corvette could probably be purchased in the US for $20,000 to $30,000US. This one was $400,000. I think that $370,000 worth of modifications are a little more than "relatively moderate". It was also reported that the Diablo Gemballa VT Roadster was taken up to 255 mph in France.

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LOL

Want to keep bring it up unh <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

Its true man, this test was done by a mysterious French Magazine that quickly tests a car, and then disappears without leaving a name.

Tell you what, if you consider that, and oh yes a message board creditable information, then I guess all the performance stats we find on Callaway's site are 100 percent accurate!

Wow, guess all you guys were wrong, the Sledgehammer has an amazing top speed, and can handle amazingly on the track.

 

Maybe we should find a tester follow him with a video camera and watch him test the Sledgehammer and the Gemballa for you. Would that be sufficient? Whenever someone posts something you don't like its an irrelevant source or you pull some other excuse out of your arse. Keep denying the truth if it makes you feel good. No offence Vette1 but for someone who liked to call others babies and accuse them of crying, you are showing signs of a being a bitterly defeated child. Keep in mind that your only backup in this forum was a posting from a Callaway website. No one said that was insufficient. Yet everyone else’s postings have a response that sounds like “but that doesn’t count”. Keep trying but facts are facts and this car may be fast but the fastest it is not.

 

Oh really <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

Kinda like when someone puts up stats that came from an American magazine you guys will claim it's all biased.


Look, I've told you already, I'd love to know of a car thats faster, just provide offical times, or atleast tell me the name of the Magazine.

 

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<b>Wow has me being cosistantly right ever pissed you guys off. Does it bother you that much that Italy has produced some of the finest cars, scientists, motorcycles, explorers, food, people, etc. Grow the #$%# up. You know I could sit here and corect you on Italy's take over of Greece and North Africa. I could show you how Americas confused navy couldn't even leave New York Harbour to head for Europe because of the Mafia constantly blowing up ships like the Normandy. I could tell you that the only reason that the Americans were allowed to set foot in Sicily was because of a deal between the CIA, the Military and the boss of the Genovese family Lucky Luciano. I could point out how Ferrari is a very Italian company with many Italian engineers. If having British employees makes them British then Ford would be Italian because of Iacocca's input. But I would be wasting my time. Because you are obviously a sorry bunch of midwest American hicks who have been poorly educated and are clearly poster children for the after effects of inbreeding. It's not Americans I hate. It's those Americans I hate.

If you want to be a tough guy, call me a wop and a dego to my face, so I can send you to the same emergency I sent the last inbred yankee piece of shit with a big mouth to. Takes a lot to be a tough guy on a computer.

BTW Mr. 1 post. If you are going to create a new account to say things you don't have the balls to attach your own name to the least you could do is post shit elsewhere as well so it looks like you've been around. Typical candyass though. Wants to talk tough without the repercussions.

If I was American these forums would have me changing citizenships.
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He he, gsolinda. You? Have been right? When? YouŽre just a bigoted little shit. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> I would love to see the crap youŽre printing into your schoolbooks to make you look better, so you wouldnŽt have to cry so much. I could laugh even more than I do now. Go ahead and make my day.

Just keep living in your la la land where "Italy gallantly took over Greece" (sure), "Italy gallantly took over North Africa" (sure sure), "American Navy couldnŽt leave New York harbour because of the Italian that the Americans were allowed to set foot in Sicily was because of a deal between the CIA, the Military and the boss of the Genovese family Lucky Luciano" (oh the US armed forces only could invade Sicily because they got a permit from a shitty mob boss, this is a true classic), "Americans and Italian rebels fought together against the Nazis and not each other" (hey Sherlock, guess why they were called "rebels"), "Ferrari is a very Italian company with many Italian engineers" (this is surprisingly true, coming from you, but it doesnŽt change the fact that all key individuals in FerrariŽs F1 program are very much non-Italian, as previously described). Further go on dreaming about "high quality" and "reliable" Ferrari road cars "which have performance untouched" by American mass produced cars.

"It's not Americans I hate. It's those Americans I hate." Guess what, mini-pecker? ItŽs you yourself that you hate. YouŽre shivering in your wet panties because your insecure little ego needs reinforcement from some vague "national achievements", or "national history" for which you yourself have contributed absolutely nothing. If your dego ass was born in the United States instead of Italy, youŽd be the first one of those "sorry bunch of midwest American hicks who have been poorly educated and are clearly poster children for the after effects of inbreeding", spouting the exactly same shit with different words. Although then at least you wouldnŽt have to make so much shit up to make your turd of a nation look good, than youŽre forced to do now. By the way, IŽm not from the US, IŽm from the EU.

Heheh: "Takes a lot to be a tough guy on a computer" - "If you are going to create a new account to say things you don't have the balls to attach your own name to the least you could do is post shit elsewhere as well so it looks like you've been around"

You are such a dumb little shit it becomes kinda moving. Where have you yourself been acting tough lately kiddo? Is your sense of reality so distorted you donŽt realize your wop ass is as well sitting behind a computer screen? Figures - perhaps because youŽre an Italian. I further also fail to see your personal data assigned with your screenname as well, which is a good thing for you though. Even if you genuinely think that youŽre some kind of a Superman 17, what I very much doubt, as youŽve got some sense of self-preservation, guess what, you ainŽt. Further, I havenŽt posted anything elsewhere, because it was YOUR sorry ass and YOUR talking shit that caught my attention. And itŽs YOU IŽm going to mock and laugh at in the future, every now and then when I bother, because youŽre such an easy target and also very stupid. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

Kind regards,
Mr. 2 posts

PS. Thanks Hemi and Vader, nice to meet you.

 

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<b>Wow has me being cosistantly right ever pissed you guys off. Does it bother you that much that Italy has produced some of the finest cars, scientists, motorcycles, explorers, food, people, etc. Grow the #$%# up. You know I could sit here and corect you on Italy's take over of Greece and North Africa. I could show you how Americas confused navy couldn't even leave New York Harbour to head for Europe because of the Mafia constantly blowing up ships like the Normandy. I could tell you that the only reason that the Americans were allowed to set foot in Sicily was because of a deal between the CIA, the Military and the boss of the Genovese family Lucky Luciano. I could point out how Ferrari is a very Italian company with many Italian engineers. If having British employees makes them British then Ford would be Italian because of Iacocca's input. But I would be wasting my time. Because you are obviously a sorry bunch of midwest American hicks who have been poorly educated and are clearly poster children for the after effects of inbreeding. It's not Americans I hate. It's those Americans I hate.

If you want to be a tough guy, call me a wop and a dego to my face, so I can send you to the same emergency I sent the last inbred yankee piece of shit with a big mouth to. Takes a lot to be a tough guy on a computer.

BTW Mr. 1 post. If you are going to create a new account to say things you don't have the balls to attach your own name to the least you could do is post shit elsewhere as well so it looks like you've been around. Typical candyass though. Wants to talk tough without the repercussions.

If I was American these forums would have me changing citizenships.
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He he, gsolinda. You? Have been right? When? YouŽre just a bigoted little shit. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> I would love to see the crap youŽre printing into your schoolbooks to make you look better, so you wouldnŽt have to cry so much. I could laugh even more than I do now. Go ahead and make my day.

Just keep living in your la la land where "Italy gallantly took over Greece" (sure), "Italy gallantly took over North Africa" (sure sure), "American Navy couldnŽt leave New York harbour to head for Europe because of the Mafia constantly blowing up ships like the Normandy" (oops they did leave, or are the ships perhaps still there?), "only reason that the Americans were allowed to set foot in Sicily was because of a deal between the CIA, the Military and the boss of the Genovese family Lucky Luciano" (oh the US armed forces only could invade Sicily because they got a permit from a shitty mob boss, this is a true classic), "Americans and Italian rebels fought together against the Nazis and not each other" (hey Sherlock, guess why they were called "rebels"), "Ferrari is a very Italian company with many Italian engineers" (this is surprisingly true, coming from you, but it doesnŽt change the fact that all key individuals in FerrariŽs F1 program are very much non-Italian, as previously described). Further go on dreaming about "high quality" and "reliable" Ferrari road cars "which have performance untouched" by American mass produced cars.

"It's not Americans I hate. It's those Americans I hate." Guess what, mini-pecker? ItŽs you yourself that you hate. YouŽre shivering in your wet panties because your insecure little ego needs reinforcement from some vague "national achievements", or "national history" for which you yourself have contributed absolutely nothing. If your dego ass was born in the United States instead of Italy, youŽd be the first one of those "sorry bunch of midwest American hicks who have been poorly educated and are clearly poster children for the after effects of inbreeding", spouting the exactly same shit with different words. Although then at least you wouldnŽt have to make so much shit up to make your turd of a nation look good, than youŽre forced to do now. By the way, IŽm not from the US, IŽm from the EU.

Heheh: "Takes a lot to be a tough guy on a computer" - "If you are going to create a new account to say things you don't have the balls to attach your own name to the least you could do is post shit elsewhere as well so it looks like you've been around"

You are such a dumb little shit it becomes kinda moving. Where have you yourself been acting tough lately kiddo? Is your sense of reality so distorted you donŽt realize your wop ass is as well sitting behind a computer screen? Figures - perhaps because youŽre an Italian. I further also fail to see your personal data assigned with your screenname as well, which is a good thing for you though. Even if you genuinely think that youŽre some kind of a Superman 17, what I very much doubt, as youŽve got some sense of self-preservation, guess what, you ainŽt. Further, I havenŽt posted anything elsewhere, because it was YOUR sorry ass and YOUR talking shit that caught my attention. And itŽs YOU IŽm going to mock and laugh at in the future, every now and then when I bother, because youŽre such an easy target and also very stupid. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

Kind regards,
Mr. 2 posts

PS. Thanks Hemi and Vader, nice to meet you.

 

gsolinas, your are the stupidest mother F****R i've ever heard of number one this car is not exotic now did u just say a Ferari 355 would burn a Dodge Viper well my friend from afganastan i guess you don't know that a dodge viper is the fastest quarter mile car in existance and u remarked on the shelby cobra ok the viper originated from carol shelbys cobra the cobra was the previous fastest quarter mile car. You are stupid Exotic cars are stupid Like our nation our cars cannot be beat so run back to Japan and tell u're boss Dick Hung Low that he's a small penis moron. Thankyou

 

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<b>gsolinas, your are the stupidest mother F****R i've ever heard of number one this car is not exotic now did u just say a Ferari 355 would burn a Dodge Viper well my friend from afganastan

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Alright first off all what's with that remark, gsolinas has stated that he’s European, but are you trying some how to take a shot at people from Afghanistan?

gsolinas, the Mosler 900TT I'll admit is difficult to find information about, since no orders were made for the car. I think Mosler has pretty much given up on it, though he does claim that if someone still wants to make an order he'll still build one. Mosler has a new car that’s out now, that uses the LS6 engine, there seems to be more attention on that car now. Only time I was reading up on it was when I was in California (I can't remember the name of the magazine), no websites give any information though, as far as I know.


Oh and I've tried e-mailing those guys at that lambo site like twice now, but doesn't seem like they're intrested in responding back to me, anyone else know where the information on that car can be found?

 

looks like he created another alias to state his stupid remarks. Beginning to end that made no sense.
Gsolinas you have been very informative throughout these forums. Disregard the posts of these little queers because they will just keep posting nonsense and misinformation. You can't educate the ignorant, they are proving that with every stupid post.

 

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<b>Is that the best you could do? It took you one week to put that together? Well congratulations, you have managed to bring the level of intelligence down yet again.

In case you haven't noticed, you proved absolutely nothing. Just a long posting of complete irrelevance. So because I'm well informed on my history and that of others I am insecure? Where did you get your PHD in psychology genius? Pick up a book and learn to read. And when you do, read the Luciano Project. Until then keep your 3rd grade education to yourself, your making everyone here dumber with your bullshit.

WOP? Dego? Try using those terms in front of Italians so you can have your own cock and balls stuffed in your mouth. (You'd probably like that anyway you #$%#ing queer).
If you are from the EU then so am I stupid. Look closely at the list of members. But I love how you didn't mention where you are from specifically you #$%#ing liar. Either you are ashamed (based on your stupidity I would be too) or you are full of shit which is likely the case.

So if you want to go on thinking Italian cars are less durable than American ones by all means pick up a Ford Tempo and keep a tool set handy at all times. But please to save what little face you have left research shit before you bore us with another meaningless book.

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Well well MamaŽs little boy wonder wop. Are we a bit grumpy again? Oh poor baby. "It took you one week to put that together?" Do you really think that like you, I wouldnŽt have any life outside this forum - there was a weekend here in case you didnŽt notice. But I guess you after all did notice, if it felt like a week for you. Looking at you, you must be very lonely.

Oh, so my posts are too long for you? Well I just stated some facts which happen to be true. Proof - where to start (and youŽve really been the king of research so far - is that type of research called degoism)? Perhaps the WW2, as it certainly is a written testament of Italian courage, intellect and engineering. I sure remembered that you guys were class A pussy asses, but I really didnŽt remember that you sucked THIS much. Thank you again for giving me some more chuckles.

A brief look to Italian North AfricaŽs campaign; the more you read the more hilarious it gets. Want me to go on?

http://gi.grolier.com/wwii/wwii_8.html

Some summary:

http://www.g-ligue.com/SiteEn/chronologieEn.php

http://www.g-ligue.com/SiteEn/section%20chronologie/chronologie1941.php

Small (polite) text summary for our not-so-well informed gsolinda:

"In East Africa as in other campaigns, Italian arms had not prospered. The campaigns in Africa, as well as that against the Greeks in Albania, had shown Italian troops to be poorly led and trained. They were badly equipped, especially in tanks, and logistically ill found. In Africa they had been completely defeated in two campaigns by British Commonwealth forces of greatly inferior strength. Not less than 420,000 Italians (including Italian-trained native troops) had been killed or captured, as compared with approximately 3,100 British Commonwealth battle casualties. The Italians also lost hundreds of tanks, guns, trucks, and aircraft and vast quantities of other equipment and stores. The collapse in East Africa was Italy's third serious defeat since entering the war. By early February 1941, she had been decisively beaten in Cyrenaica. By mid-March, her last effort to defeat the Greeks without German aid had failed."

Was this also with the "permit" from some Lucky Luciano, dumbass? <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

From the invasion of Sicily, operation "Husky". This is to which Mr Luciano gave his "permit". DoesnŽt look that good either.

"By July 22, British Commonwealth forces had advanced northward to the foothills of Mount Etna, while American troops had overrun the western part of the island, capturing Agrigento and Palermo. Only the northeast held out. By August 15, Randazzo and Taormina had been captured, and by August 17 all Axis resistance in Sicily had ceased. Allied casualties included 6,896 Americans and 12,843 British. Axis killed, wounded, and prisoners numbered about 164,000, of whom approximately 32,000 were Germans. The Allies captured or destroyed about 1,500 aircraft, 78 armored fighting vehicles, 287 guns, and 3,500 motor vehicles."

Enough of the WW2 for now. If you want me to find more, itŽs easy. The facts are all over to be found, except probably in the Italian history books, from which youŽve become so "well informed" of your history, my candyass friend. The more you look at the history, more bad it looks for Italy. There is probably no other country in the world, which would have such an utterly shameful military history. And the fact that you yellow bellied backstabbers turned your coats against your former friends the Germans, when you had your asses kicked oh so badly and went home for your mamas to cry, wonŽt change that it was you fascist peckers yourselves who started those particular sorry conflicts in the first place. It wonŽt make you "the braves who defeated nazi-Germany", you dumb shit, even if thatŽs what itŽs probably printed into your schoolbooks.

Cars? Reliability? Ferrari vs. Vette? If you genuinely think that a 5-valve config high winding straw mobile from Maranello Italy can outlast a pushrod small block Chevy, you REALLY donŽt know anything about engineering, or even about the laws of physics, you dipshit wop. But that was already obvious from your initial posts. Next claim from you is probably that the world is flat and the Sun revolves around Earth. I wonder if that issue has already been updated into Italian schoolbooks? Most likely not.

No one needs a PhD in psychology to see whatŽs painfully obvious: you are a helplessly insecure nationalistic little twat and consecutively a little internet bully wannabe. I am not telling you where IŽm from, because youŽre itching to know and this way itŽs even more easy to piss you off. LetŽs just say for now that IŽm from a fellow (oh yes I am and was well aware that youŽre unfortunately part of the Union as well) EU country where Italy is not so highly regarded, which has much better military history and much more spine. Make your pick out of the any other 14. LOL.

PS. It makes me laugh oh so much when you cry "oh come say such things to ItalianS and we will blah blah...". Using a plural when it comes to a physical confrontation is really a must for you, which is very understandable, looking at what you are. Ta ta, homo!

 

That was noble Vader. I totally agree. Less BS and more cars. That of course means ignoring any further Bullshit from Gunther.

Gunther you are full of shit. But you are good at picking out what you want people to read. Try reading that book begining to end. You left out some key points.

"ta ta" What the #$%# was that. Gsolinas avevi ragione, questo e un leccafava. LOL

 

Gunther man why are you so jealous? I see you are clearly embarrassed by your ethnicity but to knock another's because of it is just immature.
Why are we mamas boys? Because our mothers can cook. Just because you were raised on hot dogs, hamburgers, and cock your whole life you don’t have to take your bitterness out on guys that have it better. And you mentioned us living with our moms until we marry. I’m in my mid twenties and live on my own.

Are you bitter because your mother was too busy out sucking cock to be able to take care of you as a kid? Because you have some seriously repressed anger. Get help.

I bet if someone gave you an Italian car, Italian, suit, and an Italian dinner you would love every second of it.

So go peel the tin off of tonight’s supper and continue to envy. It only makes me more grateful.

Gsolinas you were right. This prick is for sure someone else’s creation.

Cornu Leca fava!LOL Per forza, non puo mangiare niente altro. Questo non ha mai provato nianche la fica. C’avra undic’anni. Mischinu.

Vader, I like your post. Lets keep it to cars. I just felt the need to laugh at the son of a whore a little more.