Re: this thing beat an F-16

Discussion in '2000 Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept' started by 2003SVTCobra, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. i dont believe it, i saw the video from dodge.com and i all i saw was the viper going down the tarmac, im not gonna believe this until i see them going side by side in a race. i mean come on have you ever seen those things take off of aircraft carriers? they do 0-60 in like 2 seconds. usually i think half the stuff on that show is bullshit anyway. the only way the viper wins is if it gets a 5 second head start. and lets say if it was possible, then there are alot of other cars that could beat it too<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. On carriers, it is different since they use catapults. Out in the Nevada desert, there are no catapults. Either way, this car was not in the Ripley's Jet vs. Car shootout. It was the regular (pre-production) '03 RT/10 and the Viper Competition Coupe. They didn't show the VCC, only the RT/10, which lost by .2 second at the finish line. It was a photo finish.
     
  3. it is possible for a car to beat a jet. guibo is correct on aircaft carriers they have air pressurized launchers under the runway and launches the plain, and are also used to slow down the plane in landing(a hook on the plane catches a wire on the runway and the rockets run, against the direction of the plane.

    anyways, jets do not accerate as quickly as some cars because they simply cant match the cars accelration at low speeds (below 150 mph) after that the jet overtakes the car<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. this is a desperate ploy by dodge to make people who arent very car savy think that the SRT-10 and the VCC are the fastest cars. If those two cars got that close, (2 tenths of a second) then there are other cars that could even beat the F-16. this is a rediculous comparison, i dont think boeing was looking for something with GROUND speed more than something that could blow up enemy aircraft, do mach 2(IN THE AIR), and take damage from automatic weapons.
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  5. what was the et for the 1/4<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. Its hard to beleive that this puny brat could beat an F-16. And by the way, would someone please boot the whacko who posted the comment before me? His icon is stupid.
     
  7. Uno: F-16 isn't Boeing, it's Lockheed Martin
    Duo: A catapult launched fighter reaches over around 200mph in less than 2 sec (and in less than 70/80 meters)
    Tres: The demonstrations I have seen (not with the viper, but i saw an indy-car vs an F 18) were WITHOUT hotstart, that means: no afterburner and no full-power for brake release. With hotstart these baby's get 3 g's in the rear, lets see a viper follow that ...

    I love this car, but let's face it: it is NOT a multi-million dollar jet.
    And one more thing: the F-16 does not fly at mach 2 ... max tested top speed was 1.6 ... If you want speed, take the F-22, SR 71 or the new nasa scramjet ... mach 9 anyone???
     
  8. i got a vid of an indy car beating a f/18 hornet. the car kicks the plane but the plane catches quickly once in the air. like the other guy said, the plane accelerates from speed not to speed.
     
  9. #9 2003SVTCobra, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Haya300</i>
    <b>Uno: F-16 isn't Boeing, it's Lockheed Martin
    Duo: A catapult launched fighter reaches over around 200mph in less than 2 sec (and in less than 70/80 meters)
    Tres: The demonstrations I have seen (not with the viper, but i saw an indy-car vs an F 18) were WITHOUT hotstart, that means: no afterburner and no full-power for brake release. With hotstart these baby's get 3 g's in the rear, lets see a viper follow that ...

    I love this car, but let's face it: it is NOT a multi-million dollar jet.
    And one more thing: the F-16 does not fly at mach 2 ... max tested top speed was 1.6 ... If you want speed, take the F-22, SR 71 or the new nasa scramjet ... mach 9 anyone???</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    well i found info that said it does mach 2 from www.militaryaircraft.com. but isnt there different versions of the F-16?<!-- Signature -->
     
  10. yeah i actually read that the lingenfelter ABUSED an f18 hornet in the quarter mile, but what a dimwhitted comparison...Obviously without a catapult the car will out accelerate any jet because of MASS differential. however with the catapult the f18 hornet reaches around 98 miles per hour in a second...<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. a current f-16 produces around 36,000 horsepower from its jet engine. however hte jet also weighs a considerable amount. and becaue a quarter mile (which is hardly anything) of course a viper could overtake the f-16. a frikkin f-16 isn't made for stupid acceleration tests.... i mean come on here.

    you could probably take a hennesey viper venom and say it beats the #$%#in space shuttle in acceleration for the first half second or something.

    besides a f-16 hits like mach 1.5. does a viper?
     
  12. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Burnt Rubber</i>
    <b>what was the et for the 1/4</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    The video didn't say. The Viper was ahead by a good margin, though. About 4-5 car lengths. The only number given was 13.5 seconds, the time for the F-16 to cross the half-mile mark. The Viper was slower by .2 second.
     
  13. this thing beat an F-16

    I saw it on TBS Ripley's believe it or not. It won a quarter mile. the rest is obvious.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. You can also watch the race on 4adodge.com
     
  15. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from pkripperf1</i>
    <b>I saw it on TBS Ripley's believe it or not. It won a quarter mile. the rest is obvious.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->that is bullshit<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. actually its not bullshit. It is possible for a car to beat an airplane (jet) in the quarter mile, just as jet drag cars are slowler then actual piston engined funny cars or rail cars. It all has to do with how the power is delivered, and how and what each vehicle is made and desgined for. Jets are made for acceration in the high speeds, say between 200 and 700 mph, where as the Viper is made for acceration between 0-200(200 being the topspeed) its not really a relevant comparison but it gets raitings. I rememebr they drag raced a 800 lingenfelter corvette to a f18 jet on motor trend. The vette won until about 150 mph, where the jet just took away. <!-- Signature -->
     
  17. It was "this thing" It was the new SRT10 Viper.
     
  18. would you mind changing your avatar?
     
  19. That is so true! It is just a lame marketing scheme, (or lame idea) that Motortrend and Ripley's did. Not to mention that way earlier Jet and Vette drag. They should seriously stop doing that comparison it is nothing to brag about. One for air, and ones for ground dont Compare!!!
     
  20. you asshole. jet engines are not measured in horsepower, they are measured in pounds of thrust. the F-16's engine produces around 30,000 pounds of thrust.

    but personally, if we're picking infeasible speed machines i would go for the X-15. Mach 7 and launch from a B-52. That's sweet.
     
  21. Ya but the X-15 was a Rocket not a Jet. If you want speed the Space Shuttles go #$%#ing Mach 20 or so.
     
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    no that was a 2003 viper srt-10 stock and the pvo version that beat the jet
     
  23. Im in the navy stationed at the Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71 and ive seen fighter jets like the F/A-18C Hornet when its unloaded locked onto a catapult and can be launched at 0-150 mph ( @150 mph not @ 60 mph) in less than 2 seconds when the Hornets full power is engaged at Stage 6 afterburners. The Viper would WIN the quarter mile race ON pavement surfaces since the F/A-18 Hornet's thrust from its powerful twin GE F404-200 w/ 50,000 lbs of thrust afterburning turbofans can only push the jet @ 0-60 mph in 2 to 3 secs depending on the load, while the Viper is very capable of doing a little faster with its 500 hp V-10. There's like a 50% difference here since there wouldn't be any powerful steam catapults in which might require more than 5,100 Vipers to match the catapult's bone jarring power of over 300,000 hp. And speaking of F-16's,with its single GD F120 afterburning turbofan w/ 40,000 lbs of thrust from Stage 5 afterburner, which these jet cannot be lauched from a carrier because it has only one wheel on the nose gear (needs 2 wheels to be able to support the catapults strutsin between the two wheels) and does not have the specific brake locks to secure itself onto the catapult. Again, the Viper CAN beat the F-16 Falcon in a quarter mile race but beyond that, like any other lightweight fighter jet, it would smoke the Viper<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  24. I agree to the fact that the F-16 is produced by Lockheed Martin not Boeing. I also agree with everything u said up here EXCEPT that the F-16 CAN fly at Mach 2 or 1,350 mph at 40k feet and 1,500 mph at 50k feet . And the answer to the other guys question, there are many different versions on the F-16 depending on the type of mission its going 2 fly.
    Here some info:
    1) F-16A is the original version and has the capabality to switch from air to air mode to air to ground mode.
    2) F-16b is a two-seater version of the F-16A is just that the pilot can focus on the flight of the aircraft and firing weapons while the guy on the 2nd seat takes care of the weapons and Radar Warning Reciever (RWR).
    3) F-16C is the multi-role combat aircraft in which is fitted with the LANTIRN ( i forgot what the acronym is, but if u know thats cool<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>) radar and infrared targeting device that is used for hunting targets easily at nighttime missions and has a much better use of the Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile or AMRAAM, with its upgraded APG radar.
    4) F-16D is the two-seater version of the F-16C but the pilot DOES control the weapons while the Radar Intercepting Officer in the 2nd seat takes care of enemy aircraft intelligence and setting of the weapon devices.

    These are the basic version configurations of the F-16<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  25. do i hear anoraks rustling?
     

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