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Discussion in '1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette' started by bob777, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. care to explain the changed gear ratios ameritech put in that mclaren andretti drove? or is this a numbers only discussion?

    xp5 and xp1 were mules, xp3 was used for the testing way back in what, 93 and 94? xp2 and 4 were wrecked for crash tests

    read the mclaren website, it says the car (the 240.1 MPH) was exactly the same as the showroom models that their customers drove home less the rev-limiter.

    This was all confirmed by VW, but that ain't news now is it?

    EDIT: I noticed something else in one of these posts somewhere else on the shitslinger. About the skidpad results and all the quotes. If memory serves correctly, they (skidpad tests) were done in 94 cause they used a prototype (cause the car was rated at 485 HP, had a 0-60 MPH time of 3.7 seconds via R&T testing). Not that it matters what the production cars do the skidpad at, just thought it was interesting to bring this up also.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    96 NSX-T, regarding your quote: actually, you are lost even if you don't care where you are. Because, the only reason you don't care anymore, is out of the fear of being lost. Inside, you're scared to death and are probably shitting your pants but you're telling yourself that you don't care to make that fear go away.
     
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    care to explain the changed gear ratios ameritech put in that mclaren andretti drove? or is this a numbers only discussion?

    xp5 and xp1 were mules, xp3 was used for the testing way back in what, 93 and 94? xp2 and 4 were wrecked for crash tests

    read the mclaren website, it says the car (the 240.1 MPH) was exactly the same as the showroom models that their customers drove home less the rev-limiter.

    This was all confirmed by VW, but that ain't news now is it?

    EDIT: I noticed something else in one of these posts somewhere else on the shitslinger. About the skidpad results and all the quotes. If memory serves correctly, they (skidpad tests) were done in 94 cause they used a prototype (cause the car was rated at 485 HP, had a 0-60 MPH time of 3.7 seconds via R&T testing). Not that it matters what the production cars do the skidpad at, just thought it was interesting to bring this up also.


    The gear ratios are EXACTLY the same on the XP5 and the Ameritech Mclaren F1 , every single one of them form 1st to 6th and final gear ratio, and Gordon Murray was qiouted as saying with the XP5 its reline limited to 221 mph at 7500 rpms, which isnt far off from what Mario did 217.7 mph , and the XP5 was tested at Nardo for 231 mph and the XP5 was tested at the VW test track to 240.1 mph and NOT one of the 100 customer Mclaren raod cars until another magazine indendantly top speed tests a customer's Mclaren F1 road car the best it has done is 217.1 mph and i don't car what the factory claims because factory claims are USELESS !!!
     
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    Calm down Scotti.

    Breathe... Breathe... Breathe...
     
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    Iread an article on this car. the 254mph was on a test track but his speed wasnt actually the top speed. on boneville this car hit an average of 298mph not kph
     
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    QUOTE FROM BigVettPhile:

    Iread an article on this car. the 254mph was on a test track but his speed wasnt actually the top speed. on boneville this car hit an average of 298mph not kph

    What are you talking about? Show me some proof by getting me that article. Don't just come in here saying something like that.
     
  7. #32 El Jefe, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cerbie</i>
    <b>And if you want to know more about the problems of getting a road car to go really fast, read this:

    http://www.fantasycars.com/2/Special_Reports/Is_the_McLaren_F1_untouchable_/is_the_mclaren_f1_untouchable_.html


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    Which brings us to a very big reason why the Sledgehammer's record still stands: The Callaway Corvette Aerodynamics Package, of which the Sledgehammer was the prototype. For top speed, Cd*A is the most important number!
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Tim851</i>
    <b>The stats on this page shouldn't be taken for granted either.
    Half of the cars in their TOP SPEED List are some kinds of prototypes that are likely not to have driven at all.
    E.G. The Bugatti Veyron Concept from whatever year is stated with something like 405 kph. I doubt that this prototype has ever proofed that. Or that Renault thing, this mini Van, if this car has gone the speed they claim I will stop loving automobiles.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->think about this its a F1 engine with 800bhp thats the only reson why it does 300 kph
     
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    Isn't the Bugatti faster than this?
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 550WOLVES</i>
    <b>Isn't the Bugatti faster than this?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    it can be since you will be able to order them with different gear ratios.

    and by the way, this car is not a production car since only one was made (and it blew up) <!-- Signature -->
     
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    How isn't it the fastest street legal car? It has been tested the fastest so why keep arguing? Untill another street legal car does faster quit arguing, and by the way this car has not blown up son. . .. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    Well said. The facts are right there in front of you, why keep nagging on and on? Unless you're blind of course in which case, please, continue.
     
  13. #38 imnotmaranelloboy, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: This isn't the fastest car!

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from cars r my life</i>
    <b>yea um to u all id jus like u to kno that the mclaren f1 is and will still be for a long time the worlds fastest car...and yes because i kno ur a proof freak i have proof..how bout..while in london i went to a show room wit the last mclaren not sold and i bought there book...in the book it show that the mclaren does 240 mph...which...hope ur listening is the fastest a street legal car hs ever been...so u guys and ur um freak times and crap need to go weep under the mclarens power...o and dont go and give me some garbage from road and track...there not too accurate either if uv ever read the stats in the back...have a nice day </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Sorry, but you're mistaken. I'm not saying you're wrong about the McLaren's top speed, but it's possition. The Mclaren is the world's fastest streetlegal production car. Notice that I added production. This Vette is the world's fastest streetlegal car (it doesn't classify as production even if Callaway took orders on them). If you want hard evidence, go to this link below
    http://www.callawaycars.com/Corvette/Sledgehammer/sledgehammer_article.htm
    This is the real stuff, this was published, there were several eye witnesses to it, and if it were a fraud, the publisher could and most likely would be prosecuted.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    You obviously didn't get that number for the sirius off this site, cause these lists of top speed, most hp, and so on are automated. That means that if 286 was entered into the specs, it would automatically place it at the top of the top speed list. It's one thing to claim that you found different stats, but when you claim you find different stats than everyone else when you're all on the same site is just ridiculous. Also, at what point would you consider a car 'modified'? You have no idea how much aftermarket work went into this car, do you? Pretty much, I think the only major remaining parts are most of the chassis, and the engine block.<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. #40 imnotmaranelloboy, Aug 9, 2002
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 550WOLVES</i>
    <b>Just to clarify things up a bit, McLaren is slower than this car, that's true but not by 14 mph. It's slower by 37 mph. McLaren can't actually go 240 mph. It's highest ever recorded speed on a test course was actually 217 mph. Now i know you're all gonna get mad at me and shit but before you say anything, you should first check out the McLaren F1 forum and read Scotti Ducatti's posts about the McLaren's top speed. He's got a convincing arguement and lots of proof to back it up.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You're wrong about the McLaren not going 240. Check out Andy Wallace takes the McLaren F1 to 240 @ http://www.mclarencars.com/content/sections/mainfr/gall.htm. Have a nice day.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    again i say...... unless u driven a mclaren and proved to ureself and other ppl then stfu
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from WakkaWu</i>
    <b>again i say...... unless u driven a mclaren and proved to ureself and other ppl then stfu</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What? Who are you talking to and what do you mean by that?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Fastest production car: 1997 McLaren F1-240 mph
    Fastest Street-Legal car: 1998 Lamborghini Diablo Gemballa-255mph
    Fastest Stock-Bodied car: 1989 Lingenfelter Firebird Twin-Turbo-298-314 mph
    Fastest Piston-Engined Car: "Spirit of '76"-420+ mph
    Fastest Wheel Driven Car: "The Turbinator"-461 mph
    Fastest Car of any type: "Thrust SCC"-766 mph, aka, Mach 1, the speed of sound. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from L337</i>
    <b>Fastest production car: 1997 McLaren F1-240 mph
    Fastest Street-Legal car: 1998 Lamborghini Diablo Gemballa-255mph
    Fastest Stock-Bodied car: 1989 Lingenfelter Firebird Twin-Turbo-298-314 mph
    Fastest Piston-Engined Car: "Spirit of '76"-420+ mph
    Fastest Wheel Driven Car: "The Turbinator"-461 mph
    Fastest Car of any type: "Thrust SCC"-766 mph, aka, Mach 1, the speed of sound. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Buddy you got proof that the Laborghini Diablo Gamballa was recorded 255mph officially?!

    No I didn't think so, I read the article to, it was an estimate of what they believe they were doing, thats why they say in the article 255mph or 410kmh, once again numbers are rounded, round the Sledgehammer's numbers and they are the same.
     
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    Buddy you got proof that the Laborghini Diablo Gemballa wasn't recorded 255mph officially?!

    No I didn't think so, I read the article too, it may have been an estimate of what they believe they were doing. Neither you or I can prove it though. But on that note lets move this argument to your new thread.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Yip.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Bigblockbrawler426Hemistage8</i>
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