Testing at the Ring - your favorite?

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  2. #27 ajzahn, Apr 10, 2008
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    2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Hits the N�rburgring

    By Ed Hellwig

    After months of seeing the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 sitting on a stand at auto shows, we can finally bring you video of the 620-horsepower supercar in action � and you won't be disappointed. Shot on the N�rburgring test track in Germany, the engineers behind the wheel of the most powerful Corvette ever were flogging it hard and we have the lap times to prove it.

    According to our shooters on the ground, the Corvette ZR1 was turning in lap times in the low 1:40s, a pace that puts it right up there with the world's fastest supercars. And given the damp conditions and rough, hand-timed numbers, you can expect to see even quicker official lap times when Chevrolet goes public with its N�rburgring data.

    Introduced earlier this year at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is a limited-production version of the standard Corvette. It features a supercharged 6.2-liter LS9 V8 rated at 620 hp and 595 pound-feet of torque. A six-speed transmission sends power to the 335/35R20 tires. Extensive use of carbon fiber gives the ZR1 a unique look, but it still weighs a few hundred pounds more than a standard Corvette Z06.

    That said, the folks at Chevrolet aren't worried about the performance potential of their $100,000 halo car. According to ZR1 Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter, the ZR1 will beat the track record for production cars at any road course in the world.

    Looks like they still have some work to do at the N�rburgring, because the Nissan GT-R has already run a lap of 1:38. We're guessing the ZR1 will be able to shave off another 4 seconds without much trouble. The only question now is how much quicker than 1:38 can it go? We'll keep you posted.

    Exclusive Spy Video and Photos: 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1:
    >>> www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=125496
  3. #28 ajzahn, Apr 10, 2008
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    2010 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series - Spied

    Performance, thy name is Black Series.

    April 2008

    Now this is a car we?re excited to see lapping the N?rburgring: the Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series.

    This is a fixed-hardtop version of the SL. By ditching the mechanicals for the folding hardtop and with liberal use of carbon fiber for the body, it weighs in about 500 pounds lighter. And, as the 65 in the name denotes, stuffed under the hood will be a V-12, in this case a high-performance version of AMG?s 6.0-liter twin-turbocharged V-12.

    We?re downright giddy in anticipation of close to 700 horsepower and almost 740 pound-feet of torque.

    The new SL65 Black Series adds a lot of beef to the look, especially with the muscular rear wheel arches evident in our spy shots. The tape across the side suggests no loss of definition here, and the fact the doors are one of the few large body panels exposed confirms our expectation that they are among the few pieces still fashioned of steel, rather than carbon fiber. The rear wing moves up for greater downforce at higher speeds.

    Mercedes introduced the first Black Series as a special edition of the special-edition CLK63 last summer?showing no end to the Teutonic automaker?s imagination when it comes to splitting performance hairs to appease enthusiasts.

    The CLK63 AMG Black Series was said to be patterned on the CLK63 that was used as a safety car at Formula 1 races. The pattern appears to be intact, as Mercedes recently took an SL63 AMG with its 518-hp, 6.2-liter V-8, and modified it to serve as the Formula 1 safety car this season. AMG cut 485 pounds from the stock SL63 AMG for the job: from 4400 pounds to just over 3900?or roughly the weight loss we expect for the SL65 Black Series.

    All of this begs the question as to where the current SLR McLaren fits in the lineup vis-?-vis the Black Series. The SL63 safety car already has dropped down to the same weight class as the SLR which relies on an expensive carbon-fiber monococque body. And the Black Series should be hundreds of thousands less than the half-million-dollar SLR.

    While there has been some confusion out there, this car is the Black Series and NOT the equally anticipated Mercedes SLC, although the two likely share parts. The SLC is the bespoke supercar that AMG still appears to be building from scratch after a falling-out with McLaren. The SLC reportedly will debut next year at the 2009 Geneva auto show, and has been spotted testing under the disguise of Dodge Viper body. It is expected to use a new hi-po, turbocharged version of the automaker?s 6.2-liter V-8.

    McLaren supposedly continues work on its own mid-engined supercar, amid reports the project is more upscale, a sequel to the F1, as opposed to the smaller and more affordable SLR successor that was originally envisioned when SLR and Mercedes planned to partner. But that went sour in the wake of a quality meltdown and financial down-spiral at Mercedes in 2004 that forced a halt to the program, as well as acrimony amid suggestions the SLR did not meet expectations.

    As for the SL65 Black Series, word on the street is there will only be 500 available per year, for a cool $250,000 each. As long as a couple of them make it into the press fleet, we can live vicariously, even if we can?t afford one of our own.

    >>> www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/mercedes_benz_amg_performance/2010_mercedes_benz_sl65_amg_black_series_spied+view-photos.html
  4. 0% Chevrolet Camaro

  5. Corvette ZR-1 'Ring times in low 7:40s, GT-R V-Spec amused

    Leading up to the official reveal of the Corvette ZR-1, a rare week went by when we didn't see spy shots of the General's new super coupe eating up the Nurburgring. But still images don't tell the whole tale, so InsideLine sent its spies to the North Loop with a video camera to capture an uncloaked ZR-1 making the rounds on the 'Ring. According to the men behind the lens, they were able to clock the 620 hp, supercharged 'Vette running laps "in the low 7:40s," easily within reach of supercars costing substantially more than the ZR-1's estimated $100k price tag. But what about the elephant on the 'Ring in the room? The Nissan GT-R V-Spec.

    As reported earlier this week, spies caught the GT-R V-Spec lapping the Nordschleife, and with stopwatches at the ready, they were able to time Godzilla's lightweight (by an estimated 330 pounds), more powerful (70 hp or so) sibling at an unbelievable 7:25 per lap. According to the crew that crudely timed the ZR-1, the track was damp, so that 7:40 time could easily be improved by at least four or five seconds. But that's still a long way off.

    Obviously, both lap times should be taken with a grain of salt considering the less-than-accurate way in which they were captured, but that won't stop the smack-talk. Keep it civil folks.

    [Source: InsideLine]
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  7. #33 ajzahn, Apr 14, 2008
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    2010 Chevrolet Camaro Brings American Muscle to the N�rburgring

    It was only a matter of time before the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro hit the N�rburgring test track. GM has been using the German road course to fine-tune nearly all of its performance cars as of late, so the appearance of the Camaro alongside the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 didn't surprise our spy shooters.

    Unlike some of the earlier Camaro prototypes we've seen, this particular test mule has a set of Brembo brakes and a more aggressive wheel-and-tire package. The obvious conclusion? This is a Camaro Super Sport model. But not so fast, because when you consider that previous Camaro test mules have featured very tame-look brakes, this upgrade could indicate nothing more than the Chevrolet Camaro Z28.

    Then consider the sound of this Camaro test mule. It's all motor, yet it doesn't have the same sonic signature as GM's supercharged LSA V8 that speculation indicates will be the centerpiece of the top-of-the-line Camaro SS. With 525 horsepower, the supercharged engine would give the SS a big advantage over both the Dodge Challenger SRT8 and the Ford Shelby GT500. But this prototype sounds like it probably has a normally aspirated V8, most likely a detuned LS3 V8 with somewhere around 400 hp.

    Judging from the looks of this Camaro at speed, the suspension is already well dialed in. Roll, dive and squat are all pretty minimal for a car that's expected to have a curb weight in the range of 3,600-3,800 pounds. With the start of production for the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro still a year away, the engineers at Chevrolet still have plenty of time to fine-tune this car, so these N�rburgring tests are just the beginning.

    play video:
    >>> www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=125513
  8. #34 ajzahn, Apr 14, 2008
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  9. #35 ajzahn, Apr 14, 2008
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    These are the best shots yet of the new Nissan GT-R V-Spec
    Text: Automedia / Photos: Automedia

    14th April 2008
    The visible changes are certainly subtle, but changes are more to be found under the hood. Nissan has also set a sub-7 minute 25 second Nurburgring goal for the GT-R V-Spec, which is 18 seconds faster than the current car. The GT-R V-Spec's turbocharged engine will see an increase in boost, raising output to at least 550 horsepower – up from the standard GT-R's 480 horsepower. This test car gets a revised front splitter, which sports some additional air intake slits, presumably to feed more cooling air to the brakes.

    New six-spoke wheels also house what appear to be a revised braking system. The golden Brembo brake callipers were an ever-present feature even on the first GT-R prototypes, but they're a no-show on this tester. A closer look at the prototype's brakes reveal that the road-going GT-R V-Spec will likely use a carbon-ceramic setup.

    The standard GT-R is no featherweight. And while it obviously overcomes any weight penalty in heroic fashion, it's compelling to imagine a GT-R that's some 150 kilos lighter. The V-Spec is rumoured to shave at least that much weight thanks to the use of carbon fibre body panels, and other assorted techniques. The prototype photographed has a portion of its rear wing blacked-out, suggesting it is one of the carbon fibre pieces that will make up the V-Spec package.

    >>> www.evo.co.uk/news/evospyshots/220200/nissan_gtr_vspec.html
  10. #37 ajzahn, Apr 17, 2008
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    Camaro spy images
    Minimal disguise gives us the best view yet of the forthcoming Camaro
    Text: Automedia / Photos: Automedia

    Scheduled for a presentation in one year’s time, these are the best shots yet of the all-new Chevrolet Camaro, snapped undergoing testing in Germany without any disguise – save for the false headlights.

    The new Camaro will be a traditional, rear-wheel-drive American sportscar and might even feature independent rear suspension. What’s certain, however, is that power will come from a huge 6.0-litre V8 featuring cylinder shutdown to improve fuel economy.

    It’s hard to guess from these pictures whether the concept car’s 21-inch alloys (22 inches on rear) will make it into production. Although we shot these pictures while the American car was testing in Germany, it’s the Australian brand of GM, Holden, that’s responsible for the development process. The car will be built in Canada, and the range will be completed by a convertible and an SS variant in 2010 or 2011.

    >>> www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/220209/chevrolet_camaro.html
  11. I want to know how fast is that Camaro on the ring.
  12. Over a SL black serious?
  13. also testing at the Ring:

    Here are the first pictures of the aggressive racing version of the Lexus LF-A

    Text: Peter Lyon / Photos: SB Medien/Stefan Baldauf

    Is Lexus finally on track with it's supercar-rivalling LF-A?. Our spies caught this special racing prototype testing at the famous Nurburgring.

    Although a production version of the exciting 200mph two-seater is due until 2009, performance fans will get a glimpse of a competition version this year.

    Sources within the company claim that the V10-powered coupe is set to make its public debut in May's Nurburgring 24 hour endurance race.

    As you can see, the car has been tweaked to give it an edge on the circuit. At the front is a deeper front bumper with larger holes to aid high-speed cooling.

    Move around to the rear and you'll spot the tall carbon fibre rear wing and large triple exhausts above a F1-style diffuser. All of this modifications should mean that the LF-A laps considerable quicker than the rumoured 7 minutes 24 secs of the road-based prototype.

    However, underneath the all-black bodywork are near standard mechanicals, as engineers at the company are aiming to prove the relaibility of the production car drivetrain.

    The newcomer will make its debut on the grid during qualifying for the German event on 23 May. (AutoExpress)
  14. #41 ajzahn, Apr 18, 2008
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    Spy photographers have spotted a facelifted Porsche 911 GT3 RS prototype out testing on the roads of Germany, just outside of the N�rburgring. In addition to the new LED lighting that will be applied across the 911 range, this GT3 RS gets a new, cleaner front bumper design, with larger intakes at the corners.

    This prototype maintains the RS trademarks like the competition-spec roll-bar, lightweight fixed rear wing, and thinner glass for further weight savings.

    A new rear bumper design is also in the works, sculpted to bring a bit more attention to the GT3 RS' center-mounted exhaust tips.

    Visual changes aside, we can't help but wonder what changes might lie within. Is more power on tap to battle the Nissan GT-R V-Spec? With the Lexus LF-A, Nissan GT-R V-Spec and now the Porsche GT3 RS joining the parade at the 'Ring, things just got a little interesting.

    >>> www.leftlanenews.com/porsche-gt3-rs-spied.html
  17. Have to go with the SL, but the Aston is also very cool, as are the rest, really. Camaro has to be in last place, though.

    EDIT: But the LF-A has potential to be my favorite. I'll just have to wait to finally see the finished product.
  19. The Aston.

    And how small do the wheels look on the GTR?
  20. Haha, #$%# no.

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