I disagree with you Vman, there are many forums and communities online that are flourishing. Our admins just did not care about cultivating our community. Do you remember when everyone wanted Supercars.net stickers so they could put on their cars? Admin did not even acknowledge those posts. Even I would've gotten one. I know that if someone like you who actually cared about this place would've put up a merch shop asap. Don't get it twisted, mismanagement and not keeping up with the times is what has killed our site. Totally agree with this. Anyone in internet marketing knows what he was really trying to do.