Yank tank with a lion logo on it...

Discussion in '2001 HSV VX2 SV300' started by MaXXfunk, Aug 9, 2002.

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    but having it at lower revs is, and the beema 3.5 V8 has its torque at lower revs than the chev
     
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    It might have its peak at lower revs. But did you consider the possibility that the chev could still be making more torque at the same revs that the Beema peaks at?
     
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    but if the beema was the same size as the Gen III, it would be making a lot more power and torque, at lower revs, even taking into account the law of diminishing returns
     
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    So whats your point?
    I may aswell say if the GEN III had everything the beemer had but with 5.7L it would kick its ass.
     
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    i believe it would be easier to stoke the bmw 5 litre engine out to 5.4 or so litres than add OHC, Double Vanos etc to the holden
     
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    Point? You could stroke the LS1 and still make more power.
     
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    my point is it is quite easy to stroke the BMW, but it would be almost immposible to put OHC , Vanos etx on the chev. actually read your own earlier posts before posting such juvenile responses

    and you could, once you have stoke the beemer, put a better exhaust, re map the ecu, bump the rev limiter etc and make a lot more power
     
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    Well just look at GT performance all these cars plus more are there like the GT falcon and mazda rx7 mitsubishi has a massive lead in the manufacturers title www.procar.com.au
     
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    remember GTP cars are, despite the production moniker, quite heavily modified
     
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    Are they? I thought it was just stuff like brake pads and tyres being different to street cars.
     
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    i think they change the pistons and other various internals, as even with relatively low power a stock engine wont stand up long under race conditions, and they remap the ecu. they also do things like wind up the boost on turbos a bit, and change to performance clutches
     
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    Oh okay. So its basically strengthening the basic package? It would still keep them similar though right? Like they wouldnt end up with car A being faster than B stock and then the other way round?
     
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    yeah you try hammering any stock road car for any extended period of time and they wont last as they are simply not designed for racetrack conditions beyond the occasional track day
     
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    try driving a Lancer EVO to its fullest and you'll be revving the S**t out of it, that is in no way good for the engine. This is also why F1 engines only last a few hundred km's.
     
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    (Back to the initial topic (my bad)). Yanks can't take any cred for this, nor can they complain. It is predominantly American parts. OZ just made a better car out of them by putting them in a Monaro body, IMO making a nicer car. If I was a Yank, I'd be thanking the Aussies for making one of the nicest GM cars out there.
     
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    The monaro and corvette are two different cars. the corvette is much more a sports car than the monaro, which is more of a GT.

    The best LS1 engined car is easily the Mosler MT900
     
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    holden definately make some of the nicest gm cars, probabyl the best except the corvette. the only american parts are the engine and gearbox and the gearbox is considered by most to be the worst part of teh car so they cant take any credit for holden making such a nice car
     
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    some opels are alright. saabs are rubbish. fuji heavy industries (subaru's parent, also make things like helicopters) is 20% owned by GM too
     
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    opel arent that good except for the speedster thing. saab are rubish. same with pontiac (except gto) chevy except for corvette, and all the other american gm divisions.
     
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    I like the SAAB 9'3/5 Aero's, but the problems with SAABs are they are all turbo's and small engines, they look good and the quality is good. I don't think that GM should've bought SAAB, last year SAAB lost GM some 100's of million of $$$. Not a good investment if u ask me
     
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    i have nothing against the small turbo engines, why would you? they are torquey and powerful. The problem is they are all FWD and torque steer like buggery
     
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    Agreed, i just think that SAAB should try and make a bigger N/A engine
     
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    whats wrong with the turbo motors?
     
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    nothing at all but most of saabs turbo engines run so little boost that they dont take full advantage of the turbo and still basically have a small, underpowered engine
     
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    except when they do wind the boost up in the aeros and viggens, they turn into torque steering, ill - handling monsters
     

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