ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by deuginthesky, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Yeah it would be cool but it'll never happen so the hypothetical topic is basically useless! Plus I just don't see any reason to fight over something so useless! Make fun of each other's moms or something, now that's interesting <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> Just Kidding!<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Actually HP is just Torque calculated over time. TORQUE is what matters. That is the pulling force you feel when you slam the pedal to the floor. It is the measurement of the force of the twising motion of the engine that moves the car a certain distance. If I were building a car (and I am) I would look at the Torque specs through the RPM range rather than the HP numbers, because that's what matters. If you can make torque up high, you're going to make a lot of HP because again, it's just a calculation taken from the Torque numbers.

    So saying "testing a high HP car against a high Torque car" really doesn't make any sense.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from deuginthesky</i>
    <b>Just use an appropriate gear setting on the Escudo.I even don't think the escudo needs another gearing.
    Power/weight ratio is the key for acceleration , moreover the Escudo is AWD , which gives it a better start.IMO , the Escudo is faster everywhere.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Exactly.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Actually...there is a downfall to AWD. It loses power at higher speeds due to drivetain loss (all cars lose power through the drivetrain but AWD loses the most).<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    i also believe that the escudo would kill the ZL1 in the quarter mile with its like 980hp and turbo galore. the problem with that is, and with many japanese cars is that the powerbands are somewhat narrow, and with the huge displacement generated by the ZL1, the powerband is probably much wider and consistent. So, at higher speeds, when the escudo begins to lose torque, and the gas-happy camaro stays consistent, the ZL1 wins. I would take the Camaro because of the really cool sound, and the awesome torque.

    If you don't agree, dont blame me, im only 12
     
  6. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    the Zl1 would lose in the 1/4 by a bit probably 1/2 second or so the escudo however is not a high torque vehicle it uses low gearing to get it up to speed and up hills which will let it top out in the 1000 m competition they would be close untill theescudo tops out probably around 600m where the zl1 would pull ahead it is likely that both cars would be over 200 mph by then. but who cares the escudo can't be driven (legally) on US streets the ZL1 can. that puts the ZL1 in a whole different class. <!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    umm, I dunno why we have all this fussing about these two cars. sorry, you can't really compare a street car to a rally car...
     
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    Don't you see??!!
    It's because the muscle cars and japanese cars are like Ferrari v.s Lamborghini. And the best form to put them in fight is with a superlative jap. car and a superlative U.S car, so why not to compare them??
     
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    since when is a camero a superlative american car?.......you must have some good weed......owell....a built R34 skyline will take either of them in a quarter mile........and they are in production and can be driven here legally......so i win......time to stop all the fightin.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from hckypimp38</i>
    <b>since when is a camero a superlative american car?.......you must have some good weed......owell....a built R34 skyline will take either of them in a quarter mile........and they are in production and can be driven here legally......so i win......time to stop all the fightin.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Your an idiot! Stock Skyline beating an Escudo? Gimmie a break, wake up and get your head out of your ass!
    Besides everyone the Escudo is a monster Rally car!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    excuse me....can you read?!? i never said nething aobut a stock skline.....open your eyes shut your mouth......i said a "built" skyline......last time i checked...built did not mean stock....i got the blitz skyline on this site taking the escudo and ESPECIALLY taking this hunk of scrap metal camaro.....

    hckypimp 1 I hate Rustangs 0

    wanna try agian?<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. #37 I AM GOD, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    Yeah show me this link, can I can show you about 100 cars with over 1000hp! Like I said earlier big Fucking deal!
    do you think your precious skyline could beat this car when it's finished?

    http://members.fortunecity.com/hoonau2001/realsite/tech_tips/qtv81.html

    What's my point? My point is, anyone with the right sources of income and tools can build a car that is super fast! The escudo is a damn Grand Vitara, that is superbly modded just as well as this car!
    the link I showed you is a quad turbo'd Camaro, when it's finished they expect it to run 5's! What's your precious skyline run?

    Oh yeah one more thing dumbass! Don't ever keep score of our arguments! You will make yourself look bad, because I will win!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Oh yeah, in your earlier post, you mentioned a built skyline, then said it's in production! Therefore if it's modded it's not a production car. A production car is what came off the factory from the manufacturer, so get your facts straight before you try to correct me again!

    Who's winning this argument?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    hey dumb shit.....nissan makes enough for them to be considered production....holy shit you buy some #$%#ing parts for it and they are 800hp. there for its a built car. No differnt than a venom viper.....viper is a production car.....the hennessy makes them go faster. No differnce at all. And how much money is pumped into that quad turbo piece of shit to make it go fast? not to mention the fact that it will cost you 10g worth of suspension parts to ever get that to the ground. with all that money you can build a skyline with quad turbos and do the same #$%#in thing......differnce is the awd car will put it down a hell of a lot better.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Like I said earlier, your contradicting yourself, you go off yelling at me that you said it was modded with the stupid work "built" But yet you also say it's a production car!
    This ZL-1 isn't a production car, and the Skyline you mention isn't a production car, they are not the same thing.
    Production is what came off the damn manufacturing plant!
    Again your just taking my points and throwing them back to me, I also mentioned you can take any car and mod it.

    Get your facts about production, and aftermarket parts right buddy!

    Your loosing yourself there!<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    okay for the last time let me explain this. you can buy a camaro. you can buy a skyline. you can buy the exact aftermarket parts to turn a stock skyline into for example the Blits skyline on this site. you cannot however buy the parts to turn a stock camero in to the ZL1. So there is absolutly no chance fo you ever having a ZL1, but if you choose you can have the exact skyline of this site. My choice of words may not be good enough for you, but to damn bad. Look at it this way: The Blitz Skyline on this site will rock the ZL1.<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. #42 I AM GOD, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from hckypimp38</i>
    <b>okay for the last time let me explain this. you can buy a camaro. you can buy a skyline. you can buy the exact aftermarket parts to turn a stock skyline into for example the Blits skyline on this site. you cannot however buy the parts to turn a stock camero in to the ZL1. So there is absolutly no chance fo you ever having a ZL1, but if you choose you can have the exact skyline of this site. My choice of words may not be good enough for you, but to damn bad. Look at it this way: The Blitz Skyline on this site will rock the ZL1.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Man you are stupid aren't ya? This ZL-1 Started off as a camaro, and if you don't think that for the right amount of money you can buy the engine well here's a link for you...

    http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevyBareBlockStandardDeckBigBlockV8s/12370850.html

    That link gives you the engine that's for sale, and all the specs needed to build this car.

    To buy the LS6 ZL-1, yes it is for sale smart guy, they put a LS-6 and many other Z06 parts in a SS good for 400horses. GMMG produces this car much like SLP produces the SS. Here's the link.

    http://www.gmmginc.net/html/zl1_camaro.html

    The fact that you even think that taking a Camaro and building it up to ZL-1 status is impossible makes you the most narrow minded person on this forum. How the hell do you think they built the ZL-1 from the start? And what about that Quad-Turbo'd Camaro I showed you? That's above this one. I'm sick of proving you wrong so I think the score now goes as...

    GAME...SET...MATCH! "I Hate RustStangs" WINS!




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  18. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Dont diss cars u can never have</i>
    <b>i completly dissagree theres nothin holding the ZL1 to the ground. the escudo has nos. and besides it will win!! just becuz
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    omg, another f&f fan.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Mr Vortech</i>
    <b>Actually HP is just Torque calculated over time. TORQUE is what matters. That is the pulling force you feel when you slam the pedal to the floor. It is the measurement of the force of the twising motion of the engine that moves the car a certain distance. If I were building a car (and I am) I would look at the Torque specs through the RPM range rather than the HP numbers, because that's what matters. If you can make torque up high, you're going to make a lot of HP because again, it's just a calculation taken from the Torque numbers.

    So saying "testing a high HP car against a high Torque car" really doesn't make any sense.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Why makes u think that a lot of torque is much better than lots of HP?
    Just take a look to the Z06 and some 360 Modena. ZO6: 405HP AND THE SAME TORQUE(405), 360 Modena: 400 HP AND 256 LB/FT TORQUE.

    Because i think you knou the performance of both cars, the torque matters, but not at all when you try to exceed 280 km/h. Is more important to check aerodinamics rather than torque or h/p.
     
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    I think he likes torque just like everything else because it thrusts you off the line much more. Horsepower pulls later. It's like my IROC and SS that I have. They run almost similar times the SS is a low 13 and my IROC pulls 12's (It is modified) Right off the line the IROC would run my SS off the road, but then the SS starts to pull forward but it's too late my IROC win the 1/4 mile!
    That sounded stupid, but it's true, Lotsa torque is what makes a Muscle car a Muscle car! And MR.Vortec is Muscle car freak <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
  21. #46 deuginthesky, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from I Hate RustStangs</i>
    <b>Yeah show me this link, can I can show you about 100 cars with over 1000hp! Like I said earlier big Fucking deal!
    do you think your precious skyline could beat this car when it's finished?

    http://members.fortunecity.com/hoonau2001/realsite/tech_tips/qtv81.html

    What's my point? My point is, anyone with the right sources of income and tools can build a car that is super fast! The escudo is a damn Grand Vitara, that is superbly modded just as well as this car!
    the link I showed you is a quad turbo'd Camaro, when it's finished they expect it to run 5's! What's your precious skyline run?

    Oh yeah one more thing dumbass! Don't ever keep score of our arguments! You will make yourself look bad, because I will win!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    The car you're talking about uses nitrogen !! that smells sh!t.

    I thought only ricers uses nitrogen.....................

    The high modded Skylines don't use nitrogen.
     
  22. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    That's not my point! My point is that you can find out about any car that is more powerful than others. Besides the Blitz Skyline couldn't beat this car anyway.<!-- Signature -->
     
  23. Re: ZL1 vs. Escudo Pikes Peak in 1000 meter dash

    I think this is like comparing apples to oranges. The escudo is one of the best at what it does, however this is the ULTIMATE camaro. I think this camaro is just way to sick, and I'd like to see some detuned version on the street sometime.(Yeah Right :(. Oh well..we all have dreams dont we?!)<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I think it's comparing apples to oranges too, people think that the Escudo is such a bad ass racing car because you can use it in a damn video game! But guess what people? It's a damn rally car! It will never be used on a paved road so get over your dreams!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    How true.<!-- Signature -->
     

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