<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i> <b>What's wrong with the name AmericanHP. Most of us want power and performance at low prices. Now if we wanted the snob effect, we would buy a bmw. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>And most Mustangs do handle like a boat</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Have you driven a single SN95 mustang? Do you even have a DL? F*cking terrorist sympathizer. Live in the West Bank for a year and see how much your opinion changes, you sheltered rich boy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco. You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash. Where have I ever said that I was a terrorist sympathizer? My signature? I never said whether or not he deserved the rap, I just said that he got one. If the Americans didn't want him to have money and weapons and shit they never should have given him any. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Everyone with over 500 posts report this guy. HeÂs going down. Insulting mustang owners, American cars and AmericaÂs involvement in the mid East.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Already did.
Why did you just post the same thing twice, dumbass? Man, if all Mustang owners are like you than you should be made fun of more often. Oh by the way Dumbass, I didn't bring up the Americans involvment in the Mid East, it was that Idiot Hoseman. It seems you pussies are really worried about people making fun of your precious Crapstangs, if you're so confident in them, why not let them speak for themselves. Oh by the way, you calling BMW M3 owners snobs is completely ironic because the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra is more expensive. Way to go there Dumbass. Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i> <b>What's wrong with the name AmericanHP. Most of us want power and performance at low prices. Now if we wanted the snob effect, we would buy a bmw. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>And most Mustangs do handle like a boat</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Have you driven a single SN95 mustang? Do you even have a DL? F*cking terrorist sympathizer. Live in the West Bank for a year and see how much your opinion changes, you sheltered rich boy.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco. You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash. Where have I ever said that I was a terrorist sympathizer? My signature? I never said whether or not he deserved the rap, I just said that he got one. If the Americans didn't want him to have money and weapons and shit they never should have given him any. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Everyone with over 500 posts report this guy. HeÂs going down. Insulting mustang owners, American cars and AmericaÂs involvement in the mid East.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Hey, surprise surprise, the dumb Americans theory is to start a war and to kick me out forever, luckily your foreign policy wasn't like that, because people might hate you. Oh wait... Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Why did you just post the same thing twice, dumbass? Man, if all Mustang owners are like you than you should be made fun of more often. Oh by the way Dumbass, I didn't bring up the Americans involvment in the Mid East, it was that Idiot Hoseman. It seems you pussies are really worried about people making fun of your precious Crapstangs, if you're so confident in them, why not let them speak for themselves. Oh by the way, you calling BMW M3 owners snobs is completely ironic because the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra is more expensive. Way to go there Dumbass. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE Do you know anything about cars? The m3 dumbass cost $55,000. The svt cobra cost $34,000, jackass. Guess what were I come from $34,000 dollars is less than $55,000. Oh and we never called the bwm owners snobs, you did. And even with the extra $21,000 bmw can't make a faster car than the mustang. Anything else you want me to point out and make you look like an unintelligent jackass like you are.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Oh by the way, I didn't bring up the Americans involvement in the Mid East, it was Hoseman.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> If you donÂt want anyone to really find out what you think, then donÂt put it in your signature. Considering how anti-American you are and your responses so far, you donÂt blame Osama bin Laden. As I thought all along. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b> Oh by the way, you calling BMW M3 owners snobs is completely ironic because the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra is more expensive. Way to go there Dumbass.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> M3 = 45,900 http://www.bmwusa.com/ Cobra = 34,700 www.svt.ford.com/flash/ correction, DUMBASS <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Hey, surprise surprise, the dumb Americans theory is to start a war and to kick me out forever, luckily your foreign policy wasn't like that, because people might hate you.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> YOU STARTED by saying how white trash own mustangs and sophisticated upper class buy bmws. Simply amazing how ignorant and rascist you are and having the nerve to call your intellectual superiors dumbasses and pussies. Now, our foreign policy is saving the world. We hand out the most money/food/education out of ALL countries, and have bailed Europe out of war and fascism too many times to remember.<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Okay boys there has been enough pointless argueing so let me lay it down for you. The Ford Mustang Cobra is a totally different class than the BMW M3 and they are aimed towards completely different buyers. Now I don't know much about the Mustang because I don't follow American muscle, so I don't know its lateral acceleration or skidpad numbers or any of that, but if its like the rest of the mustangs, then it will simply be a straight line car. The people that will buy this watch Nascar and Drag Racing leauges. While the BMW is for more refined or "upper class" type people that do luncheons and work behind a desk. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> This was stated in the beginning of the forums, that these two cars are in different classes but since Mr BMWM...whatever attempted to downtalk the mustang over and over and oever with a different class of car...er..BMW, the beef was on. AND NO...THIS IS NOT A STRAIGHT LINE CAR like you state, It pulls like you wouldnt believe. This pony has overall performance, for either dragging or racing
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from RaCiNgVr6</i> <b>I am just saying for all the idiots who tried to say that a Cobra R is better then a BMW. I would take any Bmw thats an M over a stupid ford. Fords cant handle for shit. I dont care how much HP they have. If we took the M Coupe or an M3 and a Cobra R to the track the cobra would look like shit compared to the BMW. American cars cant hanle all they can do is go straight. They shouldnt even have steering wheels. So all you american lovers should stop talkin shit and all american car makers should start working on their handling and stop makin such crappy BIG engines that dont perform well. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> LOL what a moron you are...the Cobra R is a street legal race car that goes up in competition against the Z06 and the Viper. Not even the M5 BMW can hang with this car on the track, road or drag.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from MantronixFX</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Okay boys there has been enough pointless argueing so let me lay it down for you. The Ford Mustang Cobra is a totally different class than the BMW M3 and they are aimed towards completely different buyers. Now I don't know much about the Mustang because I don't follow American muscle, so I don't know its lateral acceleration or skidpad numbers or any of that, but if its like the rest of the mustangs, then it will simply be a straight line car. The people that will buy this watch Nascar and Drag Racing leauges. While the BMW is for more refined or "upper class" type people that do luncheons and work behind a desk. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> This was stated in the beginning of the forums, that these two cars are in different classes but since Mr BMWM...whatever attempted to downtalk the mustang over and over and oever with a different class of car...er..BMW, the beef was on. AND NO...THIS IS NOT A STRAIGHT LINE CAR like you state, It pulls like you wouldnt believe. This pony has overall performance, for either dragging or racing </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Well "It pulls like you wouldnt believe." well what is the lateral G's, lets get a number here, lets get how fast it went through the 300. Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from American HP</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Why did you just post the same thing twice, dumbass? Man, if all Mustang owners are like you than you should be made fun of more often. Oh by the way Dumbass, I didn't bring up the Americans involvment in the Mid East, it was that Idiot Hoseman. It seems you pussies are really worried about people making fun of your precious Crapstangs, if you're so confident in them, why not let them speak for themselves. Oh by the way, you calling BMW M3 owners snobs is completely ironic because the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra is more expensive. Way to go there Dumbass. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE Do you know anything about cars? The m3 dumbass cost $55,000. The svt cobra cost $34,000, jackass. Guess what were I come from $34,000 dollars is less than $55,000. Oh and we never called the bwm owners snobs, you did. And even with the extra $21,000 bmw can't make a faster car than the mustang. Anything else you want me to point out and make you look like an unintelligent jackass like you are.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Hey idiot, don't assume things. All I said was that Osama Bin Laden got a bad rap. DID HE? DOES THE WHOLE WORLD HATE HIM? Well there you go, I never said whether or not he deserved, frankly he did. Second, the American Government supported him, not me. Lets think here... Where did he get those weapons, and get all that cash. It couldn't have been the Americans, right? WRONG! For the price thing I was comparing it to the one in the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R, so thats why I was off, its more expensive, thats why I was off. Angus<!-- Signature -->
Angisio, Osama is the son of one of the wealthiest oil/construction families in Saudi. He uses his inheritance which consists of hundreds of millions of dollars and gets wealthy business men to donate large amounts of their estimated 5 billion. Yes, back in the 80s the United States supported him. This was before any terrorism and after the Soviet Union invaded Afganistan. America sent funds because we believe in self-determination, and rights of a nation. Sure we canÂt always be right, but weÂre the only ones helping. It must be pretty hard to look back 20 years and say, we shoulda never done that, huh? But sorry, itÂs HIS own fault that he is so misguided and he would have been powerful anyways. Sorry to burst your ÂAmerica is the axis of evil notion.<!-- Signature -->
Oh I know that. I'm well aware of all that shit, and I know America isn't the evil ones, in fact its a pretty damn good country, but don't ever call me a terrorist sympathizer when I'm not. Oh by the way to AmericanHP, you were the first to call any names, please point out to me if you can where I said in my initial posts that Mustangs were White trash cars. I did say it, but that was after you called BMW snob cars. YOU BAILED EUROPE OUT DID YOU? Hmmm... I seem to remember a number of countries helping out there. The first out of all would be the Russians. If it weren't for crazy ol' Stalin, we'd all be speaking Germans. Yeah you helped, but don't think for a second that you were the deciding factor. You supply money to Isreal because there is a lot of Jewish people voting in the states. I hate to tell you, but the US government doesn't give a shit about Africa or Asia. Not that I can say any better about the Canadian government. Angus <!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Hoseman</i> <b>We never helped Asia or Africa? Hmm, I remember another little war, where we fought in the Pacific against the Japanese, who were, then invading and raping China. Correct me if I am wrong, but we put a stop to that. And actually of numerous factors, we were considered the deciding factor. We were THE major force in D-day, the crippling attack to the nazis, and the only ones stopping the Japanese. Now please enlighten me with your position on Israel. Is a tiny little bit of land too much for refugees from world war II and concentration camps, there original land? The Jews were persecuted and run out of every country, you think that SOMEONE would support there right to LIVE? The surrounding countries have 100x the territory of Israel, and yet they are bent on blowing it out of the water. We should probably not help them, and just let the PLO and what have you blow them to bits, right? I'm glad to say America supports Israel, democratic countries, and countries that fight terrorism, thank you. What country are you from? I hope your views are just your views, not representing anyone else.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I'm not gonna say too much here because it has nothing to do with cars, but here is what I'll say. 5 out of 7 German soldiers were killed by the Russians. Thats 71%, they were the factor that won the war. Second, the United Nations had no right to move the Palistinians, it doesn't matter who's land it was 700 years ago. It was stupid of them because we envolved ourselves in a never ending war, as long as both those peoples are alive they will fight, we should have stayed out of it. Third, Isreal doesn't need money, Africa does and Asia does. Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from American HP</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Oh I know that. I'm well aware of all that shit, and I know America isn't the evil ones, in fact its a pretty damn good country, but don't ever call me a terrorist sympathizer when I'm not. Oh by the way to AmericanHP, you were the first to call any names, please point out to me if you can where I said in my initial posts that Mustangs were White trash cars. I did say it, but that was after you called BMW snob cars. YOU BAILED EUROPE OUT DID YOU? Hmmm... I seem to remember a number of countries helping out there. The first out of all would be the Russians. If it weren't for crazy ol' Stalin, we'd all be speaking Germans. Yeah you helped, but don't think for a second that you were the deciding factor. You supply money to Isreal because there is a lot of Jewish people voting in the states. I hate to tell you, but the US government doesn't give a shit about Africa or Asia. Not that I can say any better about the Canadian government. Angus </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ok angisio, here is wher you stated that mustang drivers were white trash, and in the same post you also call bmw owners snobs, and then somehow try to blame it on me. Ok here it is... Qoute from Angisio, "Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco. You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash." Got that, never did I call bmw owners snobs. I did call you a jackass though, which is true. Oh and you were saying that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra, it's not. Then you said that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra r, it's not. They are almost the same price. If your going to post try to aleast get the facts straight. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ok, well I'll call a truce if you do aswell. Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from American HP</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Oh I know that. I'm well aware of all that shit, and I know America isn't the evil ones, in fact its a pretty damn good country, but don't ever call me a terrorist sympathizer when I'm not. Oh by the way to AmericanHP, you were the first to call any names, please point out to me if you can where I said in my initial posts that Mustangs were White trash cars. I did say it, but that was after you called BMW snob cars. YOU BAILED EUROPE OUT DID YOU? Hmmm... I seem to remember a number of countries helping out there. The first out of all would be the Russians. If it weren't for crazy ol' Stalin, we'd all be speaking Germans. Yeah you helped, but don't think for a second that you were the deciding factor. You supply money to Isreal because there is a lot of Jewish people voting in the states. I hate to tell you, but the US government doesn't give a shit about Africa or Asia. Not that I can say any better about the Canadian government. Angus </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ok angisio, here is wher you stated that mustang drivers were white trash, and in the same post you also call bmw owners snobs, and then somehow try to blame it on me. Ok here it is... Qoute from Angisio, "Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco. You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash." Got that, never did I call bmw owners snobs. I did call you a jackass though, which is true. Oh and you were saying that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra, it's not. Then you said that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra r, it's not. They are almost the same price. If your going to post try to aleast get the facts straight. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ok, well I'll call a truce if you do aswell. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Um...no. But as long as you don't post ignorant, nonfactual shit, I'll leave you alone. But if you start post bullshit, then I (and many others)will prove you wrong and make you wish you didn't have an internet connection.
Oh yeah, I'm really worried. A bunch of American Muscle guys are gonna make fun of me and tell me that I don't know about their cars. Oh no, I don't know about shitty Mustangs. Angus<!-- Signature -->
i thought this was a car forum, but to add on, no country does anything because they want to be nice. usa does all the things it does for its own reasons, not because they feel like beeing nice. this goes for all countries. there are rear exceptions but i am sure even them have other motives behind it. Now lets change the subject and go back to cars.
We never helped Asia or Africa? Hmm, I remember another little war, where we fought in the Pacific against the Japanese, who were, then invading and raping China. Correct me if I am wrong, but we put a stop to that. And actually of numerous factors, we were considered the deciding factor. We were THE major force in D-day, the crippling attack to the nazis, and the only ones stopping the Japanese. Now please enlighten me with your position on Israel. Is a tiny little bit of land too much for refugees from world war II and concentration camps, there original land? The Jews were persecuted and run out of every country, you think that SOMEONE would support there right to LIVE? The surrounding countries have 100x the territory of Israel, and yet they are bent on blowing it out of the water. We should probably not help them, and just let the PLO and what have you blow them to bits, right? I'm glad to say America supports Israel, democratic countries, and countries that fight terrorism, thank you. What country are you from? I hope your views are just your views, not representing anyone else.<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Oh I know that. I'm well aware of all that shit, and I know America isn't the evil ones, in fact its a pretty damn good country, but don't ever call me a terrorist sympathizer when I'm not. Oh by the way to AmericanHP, you were the first to call any names, please point out to me if you can where I said in my initial posts that Mustangs were White trash cars. I did say it, but that was after you called BMW snob cars. YOU BAILED EUROPE OUT DID YOU? Hmmm... I seem to remember a number of countries helping out there. The first out of all would be the Russians. If it weren't for crazy ol' Stalin, we'd all be speaking Germans. Yeah you helped, but don't think for a second that you were the deciding factor. You supply money to Isreal because there is a lot of Jewish people voting in the states. I hate to tell you, but the US government doesn't give a shit about Africa or Asia. Not that I can say any better about the Canadian government. Angus </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> Ok angisio, here is wher you stated that mustang drivers were white trash, and in the same post you also call bmw owners snobs, and then somehow try to blame it on me. Ok here it is... Qoute from Angisio, "Where did I say that his name was bad? I never did, I just pointed out that he of course would be totally biased towards the Mustang. No, as a matter of fact I haven't driven a Mustang, and I intend on keeping it that way, I don't want to have to wear a mullet and a wife beater and chew tobbaco. You can take your sleazy American shit mobile, and I'll take the M3 any day of the week, snobby or not. I'd rather be a snob than white trash." Got that, never did I call bmw owners snobs. I did call you a jackass though, which is true. Oh and you were saying that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra, it's not. Then you said that the m3 is cheaper than the cobra r, it's not. They are almost the same price. If your going to post try to aleast get the facts straight.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>". P.S. you have any proof of that 5/7th?" Not right at the moment, I know a guy that has the stats, but I won't get them for a while. So if you don't believe me yet, coo, I wouldn'either. "America is considered the major turning point, because first of D-day, striking the Germans in their heart." Where were you guys during the rest of the war? Oh yeah, American considers themselves the turning point, I would say it was the fued between Hitler and Stalin. Can you honestly tell yourself that Isreal needs the money more than, say Euthiopia? Mali? Botswana? Isreal is rich compared to these countries. A freaking 25 year life expectancy, yeah their living it up over there. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I dont care if the Queen handed me the gad damn stats..how do you get stats like that? Did the Russians shoot then sign all the soldiers they fought? How do you know which side shot more? How is that possible? Regardless of WHERE the stats came from..HOW are there stats? And YOU can say its a fued between hitler and stalin all you want....but no body else will. I can say it was aliens...nobody else will. Im not saying it was America only, but they made a large impact, it was the "Allied" forces all together. And how come the United States is always critisized for HOW we are helping nations. We go help people, then we are told hey why the hell are you doing that...do THIS instead. How come no one ever helps US? We are always helping everyone else? And back to the cars... BMW seems to think (per their web site) that a BASE M3 MSRPs at $49,000 While the '03 Cobra MSRPs at $35,000. You stated that a new Cobra was more expensive....which it is not. Better get your facts straight there, ass.
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from whiteGT</i> <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>". P.S. you have any proof of that 5/7th?" Not right at the moment, I know a guy that has the stats, but I won't get them for a while. So if you don't believe me yet, coo, I wouldn'either. "America is considered the major turning point, because first of D-day, striking the Germans in their heart." Where were you guys during the rest of the war? Oh yeah, American considers themselves the turning point, I would say it was the fued between Hitler and Stalin. Can you honestly tell yourself that Isreal needs the money more than, say Euthiopia? Mali? Botswana? Isreal is rich compared to these countries. A freaking 25 year life expectancy, yeah their living it up over there. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I dont care if the Queen handed me the gad damn stats..how do you get stats like that? Did the Russians shoot then sign all the soldiers they fought? How do you know which side shot more? How is that possible? Regardless of WHERE the stats came from..HOW are there stats? And YOU can say its a fued between hitler and stalin all you want....but no body else will. I can say it was aliens...nobody else will. Im not saying it was America only, but they made a large impact, it was the "Allied" forces all together. And how come the United States is always critisized for HOW we are helping nations. We go help people, then we are told hey why the hell are you doing that...do THIS instead. How come no one ever helps US? We are always helping everyone else? And back to the cars... BMW seems to think (per their web site) that a BASE M3 MSRPs at $49,000 While the '03 Cobra MSRPs at $35,000. You stated that a new Cobra was more expensive....which it is not. Better get your facts straight there, ass. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> I think we can all agree that this guy is an idiot. First of all the Germans know how many people were on every front and would be able to account for all the ones that are still alive/dead. Second of all why would the Americans need help? Where the hell did that comment come from? We already settled the price thing jackass, read all the posts before posting. I was refering to the Mustang SVT Cobra R. And the M3 is only $45 900. Go to www.bmwusa.com and then go to the M3 and check the MSRP. Do you even know what a stat is? Angus <!-- Signature -->
Oh by the way, the Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R is MSRP is $55 675, while the BMW E46 M3 MSRP is $45 900. At least if you're going to post, get your facts right, ass. Angus<!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mariowrc</i> <b>1.first mustangs are no where tuned to ultimate. if they were look at the jaguar trans-am, it uses mustang engine and ohh what was that, 650hp and 450 turque. now thats what mustang engine can give you. 2.M cars are known for being tuned to ultimate you can not really tune the m3 that much more with out aid of supercharger or turbo. M5 might have some more juice to sqeeze still. and another note bmw engine get hell of alote more ware and tear than any other luxo manufacturer, because of all the high tech and the amount of power they get from the engine. they already had cooling problems at the launch but beyond the point. 3. mustang is soppuse to appeal to buyers with not lots of money but want something fast, and it gives it, and wait till the next jen mustangs with the 5liter. and i thought the next jen m5 is going to be turbo and have 570hp. but i think as good off of a handler the mustang is and it could beat it, but i don't think it would have the same preciseness of the bmw chassi.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE you can never say that an engine is tuned to the max unless your the engines developer the BMW's have been known for having the most powerful engines in europe cuz the last gen M3 which had 240hp in the us it had 315 in europe so there really isnt a way 2 say that its been tuned to the max><!-- Signature -->
<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mariowrc</i> <b>1.first mustangs are no where tuned to ultimate. if they were look at the jaguar trans-am, it uses mustang engine and ohh what was that, 650hp and 450 turque. now thats what mustang engine can give you. 2.M cars are known for being tuned to ultimate you can not really tune the m3 that much more with out aid of supercharger or turbo. M5 might have some more juice to sqeeze still. and another note bmw engine get hell of alote more ware and tear than any other luxo manufacturer, because of all the high tech and the amount of power they get from the engine. they already had cooling problems at the launch but beyond the point. 3. mustang is soppuse to appeal to buyers with not lots of money but want something fast, and it gives it, and wait till the next jen mustangs with the 5liter. and i thought the next jen m5 is going to be turbo and have 570hp. but i think as good off of a handler the mustang is and it could beat it, but i don't think it would have the same preciseness of the bmw chassi.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE you can never say that an engine is tuned to the max unless your the engines developer the BMW's have been known for having the most powerful engines in europe cuz the last gen M3 which had 240hp in the us it had 315 in europe so there really isnt a way 2 say that its been tuned to the max><!-- Signature -->
I gaurantee you that even if 5/7ths of the German force died on the eastern front, it was not from the Russians. It was the same reason that NapoleanÂs forces fell, they all died in the Russian winter and they outran the potential of their supplies. By the way, Russia and Germany were allied in the beginning, and crazy ol Stalin called it off after some land squabbles in the Ukraine and Poland. America is considered the major turning point, because first of D-day, striking the Germans in their heart. Second, attacking up from Italy and Japan, so that their allies couldnÂt help Germany. Third, the Russians were heavily funded by American money, technology, and weoponry throughout their fight against the nazis. P.S. you have any proof of that 5/7th? That is not how Israel was formed either. Zionists had always been in that area, from before the 1890s. After the LONs crumpled, England pulled out, so the UN literally drew lines between Palestinian/Jordan lines, and Zionist lines. The Palestinians would not stand for the Jews having ANY of the land. They attacked and lost and attacked and lost, and eventually lost the land that the UN granted them because they only wanted to annihilate the Zionist controlled lands. The Palestinians were not Âforced outÂ. Palestinian greed and hatred was the cause that they lost their land, and still donÂt have any land. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Angisio_66</i> <b>Third, Isreal doesn't need money, Africa does and Asia does. Angus</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE --> The middle-east is in Asia, and America gives out the most help to 3rd world countries of ANY OTHER COUNTRY. Israel does need the money, as IÂve said before, or the surrounding countries would invade them. Not so with the American involvement. There help has saved the mid-East from an all-out war. Again, taking the Palestinian side, the group that supports and promotes terrorism thatÂs run by a terrorist. I think that the UN and America has done everything OK, thank you.<!-- Signature -->
". P.S. you have any proof of that 5/7th?" Not right at the moment, I know a guy that has the stats, but I won't get them for a while. So if you don't believe me yet, coo, I wouldn'either. "America is considered the major turning point, because first of D-day, striking the Germans in their heart." Where were you guys during the rest of the war? Oh yeah, American considers themselves the turning point, I would say it was the fued between Hitler and Stalin. Can you honestly tell yourself that Isreal needs the money more than, say Euthiopia? Mali? Botswana? Isreal is rich compared to these countries. A freaking 25 year life expectancy, yeah their living it up over there. Angus<!-- Signature -->