This vs. 911 GT1 street version

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by Clh, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Depends. Top speed and accel, Viper. Road course...GT1. If you don't believe me look at the $1000000 supercar shootout in R&T. The Viper got beaten by a tuned 911...let alone a Le Mans winner.
     
  2. #102 1426 cid, Oct 4, 2002
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    Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    What? last time i checked it was car and driver that did that comparison, not R&T. and i thought this was topic was about a 800TT Viper vs. a 911GT1 street version, not a tuned up Carrara. also, the viper was a Lemans winner to, and won 4 years in a row with the ORECA viper team from 1997-2000 in the GT2 class.

    Anyways, here's the comparison of the viper800TT vs. 911GT1street version, from http://www.fast-autos.net/

    911GT1 street version
    Price: $912,000
    engine: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
    0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
    0-100 mph: 8.2 sec
    Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 123 mph
    Skidpad: .99g
    Top Speed: 206 mph
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft

    viper800TT
    Price: $167,000
    engine: Twin-Turbo V10
    0-60 mph: 2.4 sec
    0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
    Quarter Mile: 9.99 sec @ 138.95 mph
    Skidpad: 1.06g
    Top Speed: 230 mph
    Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
    .
     
  3. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Why would you assume I was?

    Angus
     
  4. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Try to educate yourself at first please.

    A well maintained used Viper GTS is as expensive as a new Cerbera 4.5 in France.

    If you do not believe me , read Sport Auto sept 2002 issue.
     
  5. #105 SvSi Viper, Oct 5, 2002
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    Your point? Come on now, surely you've heard of import taxes.

    Convert the price of the Viper in US dollars ($72,225 for a GTS in the US) to a new Cerbera 4.5 (46,500 Pounds in the UK).

    Price in US dollars:
    Viper- $72,225
    Cerbera- $72,795.75

    Price in Pounds:
    Viper- 46,135.42
    Cerbera- 46,500

    The Viper is less expensive than a Cerbera. But, they are so close it doesn't really matter.

    http://www.xe.com/ucc/
     
  6. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    never mind...
    just tell me what u think Milo is...?
     
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    In case you still ignore it , the Viper is no more imported in France since Y 2000.

    So a USED Viper is MORE expensive than a NEW Cerbie 4.5
     
  8. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    In France. What does that have to do with anything?
     
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    does any 1 in 'ere know what Milo is...?
     
  10. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Its a very good sea food you can get at the store. HA! HA!
     
  11. #111 Bluey, Oct 13, 2002
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    a www...no!
    any 1 else have an idea!
     
  12. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    that your opinion...
    now answer me this...if think car is ugly...
    y r u in 'ere...?
     
  13. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    0 to 60 in 2.43 seconds.this viper can blast a 9.99-sec 1/4 mile run is fast enough to let you race door-to-door against a 2100-lb NHRA Super Gas dragster.

    do you really think a porche is gonna beat that?
    i mean really

     
  14. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    exactly,(and good 1st post viper4life1969.)
     
  15. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    yes a porsche will undoubtedly beat this. just ot the 911 GT1...

    the 1970s 917/30. 1400hp, 0-60 2.1, 1/4 mile (reputdedly) 7.5 secs and an estimated 270 mph

    the 1994 dauer 962 Le Mans. Greatest ever road car. 730hp, 0-60 2.6 secs, 1/4 mile 9.2 secs and 250 mph.

    look up those two beauties.
     
  16. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    HA HA HA HA!!!! YOU ARE SO FUNNY BLUEY!!!!! <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/grin.gif"></A> <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A> <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
     
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    Still waiting for a source for those times...
     
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    Look them up on this site. Hmmm interesting isn't it? Kinda makes your viper look a wee bit.. slow, doesn't it? Dauer 962 would have it's way with this, and it wouldn't even use any lube!
     
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    i looked up those cars, and i don't see your point.
    the 917/30 was completely a LeMans racecar and was never street legal.
    the dauer 962 was also a LeMans racecar but was made streetable, and you could buy, for ONLY $853,000(compared to the venoms' $167,000)
     
  20. #120 Guibo, Oct 21, 2002
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    Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Look them on this site, LOL! Yeah, every single stat on this website is 100% correct. Uh, yup.

    No, I'm looking for an actual ROAD TEST where the car is instrument tested. Kinda like this:

    http://www.motortrend.com/june01/ttviper/ttviper_f.html
     
  21. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    u r the only guy i know who knows what Milo is...
    what contry r u from...?
     
  22. #122 Carrera GT Fury, Oct 25, 2002
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    Hmm, finding "reputable" information about a car from 1973 isn't as easy as it is when it comes to the viper for obvious reasons. I will post a couple of websites that SEEM authentic since I don't have any magazines from that year.

    http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=422
    (not unquestionable proof but it's worth something)

    http://www.porscheclub.at/pcv-g/Z-porsche/rennwg/917-30.htm
    (In german but numbers are numbers. Half way down page)

    http://www.vintagerpm.com/porsche_history.htm
    (more)

    http://www.motorsportvortex.com/features/rennsport/rennsport.html
    (most reputable of the bunch so far)

    http://home.earthlink.net/~chrisbnelson/nature/cars/917/porsche917.htm
    (even better)

    You can't dispute so much evidence. These are the first 5 websites I found doing a yahoo search that pertained to this car. Even though none of them have a video of the dyno (neither does the viper), you can still assume this car (917/30) puts out 1100 normally, with the ability go as high as 1500 with 2.0 boost based on the sheer number of websites claiming these figures. I doubt it's a big conspiracy.

    You guys can look this stuff up yourselves, try it!
     
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    It's funny. You can look up ONE HUNDRED websites and if they're all using the same stats from the same source, it doesn't really get us anywhere, now does it?

    A road test from '73? I have one I can post here in just a few hours if you'd like. It's not a 917, but still. The information is easily had if it indeed exists.

    Do you know if the 917 that set the world's closed course speed record of 221 mph average speed at Talladega Superspeedway also recorded the intermediate 0-60 times, etc?


    Let me know if you want to see dyno charts of an 800TT through at least 2 stages of development. THIS information can certainly be had.
     
  24. Re: This vs. 911 GT1 street version

    Here you go. A road test from a reputable source, going back to 1968.
     
  25. #125 Carrera GT Fury, Oct 25, 2002
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    Who's to say the the source of information for all these websites is wrong? Who's to say the sources you quote are correct? The test you posted looks like a scan from a magazine. You seem to have access to such things, but I don't. I'm not willing to go to a big library to research this simply for the sake of proving the figures to somebody I don't even know. The reward of proving I'm right isn't THAT important to me.

    Now, can you DISPROVE these figures? Can you show me a test that was run on the car that disputes this information?

    I dunno about road tests for race cars from 1973 being so readily availble as you claim, but all the evidence I've found so far points to the figures being accurate.

    And no, I don't care to see the dyno charts of an 8 liter car. I've looked at that information before and I'm not impressed by the figures.

    On a different note, if the reliability of this car (800TT) reflects the reliabilty of it's maker, then you should think twice about getting one. Take a look at this.

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=234868

    Hmmmmmmm
     

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