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Post #1 Thu, Jun 15, 11:31 PM
ajzahn
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Post #2 Thu, Jun 15, 11:38 PM
ajzahn
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Post #3 Thu, Jun 15, 11:39 PM
Fluchtwagen
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 my german is too crappy to understand a lot of it.
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Post #4 Thu, Jun 15, 11:42 PM
ajzahn
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Post #5 Thu, Jun 15, 11:42 PM
PandaBeat
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Quote from Fluchtwagen
my german is too crappy to understand a lot of it.
look at the pictures/numbers
Go get #$%#ed by your dog and eat his shit, you pathetic moronic cum guzzling worm
Post #6 Thu, Jun 15, 11:45 PM
ajzahn
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Post #7 Fri, Jun 16, 12:36 AM
Justme
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 Where are the laptimes?
Post #8 Fri, Jun 16, 12:47 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from Fluchtwagen
my german is too crappy to understand a lot of it.
just don´t interrupt me and wait for the summary to come!

Nurburgring:

With a lap time of 7:48 mins the new 997 GT3 is just one second off the time set with the 996 GT3 RS before. The best time eas achieved not with PASM "Sport" setting hut the basic setup as the damers were not that hard and the car better to control. The PASM "Sport" setting is only suitable for flat tracks like the Hockenheimring.

Hockenheim:

here the new 997 GT3 was 1.5 secs. faster than its 2 years old predeccessor 996 GT3 and even 0.1 secs. faster than the sportier 996 GT3 RS. Tthis due to the progress made in driving dnymamics. The change from light understeer to light oversteer is easy to control, the 996 GT3 offers best handling.

0-200-0 kmh in 18.6 secs

it is hard to find the right grip. it took a dozen of attemps to get used to it and to achive the best time as there is no launch control and the driver has to find the right balance between the clutch and the throttle. The clutch even stand all these attempts.
The shifter of the 997 GT3 is not as easy to handle as of the Carrera S even though the gear shifts are exact and clear.
The cewramic disk brakes allows better breaking and also lasts longer than the standard brakes.

aerodynamic:

the 997 GT is well ballanced with no up- and no downforce at 200 km/h, so the aerodymanic has no influence to the handling at any speed, it si neutral.
Even though the aero package with the front apron and the rear wing, the drag coeffcient is pretty low: Cd = 0.29.


max. lateral acceleration: 1.3g

the new Michelin Cup Sport tyres, not the same as for the M3 CSL at that time, have a different geometry and offer a better wet handling. 1.3 g is not the max. for s supersports car but pretty much enough.
The 997 GT3 is at the same level as the Ford GT, Gallardo and 996 GT3 RS

specs:

3.6-litres flat-6 eingine
415 PS at 7600 rpm
405 Nm at 5500 rpm
115.3 PS/litre

gear ratios, 6-speed manual, limited slip differential, ASR:
1st 3.82
2nd 2.26
3rd 1.64
4th 1.29
5th 1.06
6th 0.92
axle 3.44

tyres:

Michelin Pilut Cup Sport
235/35 ZR 19 in front
305/30 ZR 19 in rear

length/width/height: 4445/1808/1280 mms
wheel base: 2355 mm
track: 1491/1524 mm in front/rear
weight: 1440 kg
power-to-weight ratio: 288.19 PS/ton
weight ditribution: 38.9/61.1% in front/rear

acceleration:
0-100 km/h in 4.3 secs.
0-160 km/h in 9.2 secs.
0-200 km/h in 13.9 secs.
Vmax = 310 km/h

slalom 18m: 71.8 km/h
slalom 36m: 141 km/h, better than the Koenigsegg CCR (138 km/h) and the Zonda F (137 km/h)
evasion test 110m: 158 km/h, same as the CCR, 1 km/h less than the Zonda F and 1 km/h quicker than the M3 CSL or CGT

wet handling:

best time for the 997 GT3, even 0.3 secs. quicker than the Audi RS4 at the wet hnadling track thaksn to the new Michelin Pilot Cup Sport tyres

verdict:

the 997 GT3 is true sports car and takes you into the spell pull. The 3.6-litres flat-6 engine shows its racing heritage. Even though the pursitc 997 GT3 is an every day racer for the experienced driver, not that challenging but less comfortable.

the 997 GT3 is a perfect sports car, it scores 77 pts., more than the CRR (77) and the Zonda F (74), both are more extreme.

the 996 GT3 has set two new records in the sport auto Supertest:
36m slalom and wet handling!
Post #9 Fri, Jun 16, 1:01 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from Justme
Where are the laptimes?
sorry, missed to post two pages:

Edited by ajzahn - Fri, Jun 16, 6:08 AM
Post #10 Fri, Jun 16, 1:06 AM
Crayola
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Quote from Fluchtwagen
my german is too crappy to understand a lot of it.
Yeh, unfortunately high-school german doesnt teach you to read car reviews. Of course I can ask for a slice of bread like there's not tomorrow.
Yes I realize that.....

My question is do they actually reverse the names of the seasons. I.E. is winter hot or do they call it summer.
Post #11 Fri, Jun 16, 1:20 AM
Fluchtwagen
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Quote from Crayola
Yeh, unfortunately high-school german doesnt teach you to read car reviews. Of course I can ask for a slice of bread like there's not tomorrow.
well, i've been studying privately but not lately.
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Post #12 Fri, Jun 16, 1:39 AM
rs4man
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 Ich bien ein Berliner
I want a sportscar.
Post #13 Fri, Jun 16, 1:43 AM
Justme
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 Look very wet on Nordschleife. Did sportauto mention if the time 7.48 min was done on a wet track?
Post #14 Fri, Jun 16, 3:17 AM
HeyHuub
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 Very impressive indeed.
You're hitting a hell at the edge of the stage and you are trying to kill me.
Post #15 Fri, Jun 16, 6:09 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from Justme
Look very wet on Nordschleife. Did sportauto mention if the time 7.48 min was done on a wet track?
the track was partially wet just for the photo shooting
Post #16 Fri, Jun 16, 8:11 AM
Euro Trash
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Quote from ajzahn
the track was partially wet just for the photo shooting
so it wasnt wet
who cares, he's not a house hold name in north america like he is in the 3rd world, where people care about F1. I bet most of my friends wouldn't know who the #$%# he is - TimmyMcOwnsYou on Ayrton Senna
Post #17 Fri, Jun 16, 8:30 AM
Justme
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Quote from Euro Trash
so it wasnt wet
No, not during the 7.48 laptime.
Post #18 Fri, Jun 16, 12:30 PM
nishav
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 impressive car ; impressive figures. i fcking love it
"well...sort of lovish but not really. It's more like I'm taking that lovely butterfly cliche...and raping it. With explosives." - Ashurii
Post #19 Fri, Jun 16, 5:02 PM
mpg
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Quote from HeyHuub
Very impressive indeed.
Relative to what?
Post #20 Fri, Jun 16, 7:04 PM
GTRfreak
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Quote from mpg
Relative to what?
The fact that it got such a high slalom speed, wet handling, and an overall score as high as the CCR is pretty impressive.
Post #21 Fri, Jun 16, 9:25 PM
ajzahn
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Quote from mpg
Relative to what?
to all the F and L cars
Post #22 Fri, Jun 16, 9:28 PM
lambornima
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Quote from ajzahn
to all the F and L cars
the Gallardo set a lap time of 7:52, 3 YEARS go. it did not have corsa tires at the time or its lap time would improve substancially (up to 10 seconds). for Porsche to take 3 years and need a race preped GT3 to beat it is no very impressive.
Post #23 Sat, Jun 17, 7:35 AM
mafalda
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Quote from lambornima
the Gallardo set a lap time of 7:52, 3 YEARS go. it did not have corsa tires at the time or its lap time would improve substancially (up to 10 seconds). for Porsche to take 3 years and need a race preped GT3 to beat it is no very impressive.
Gallardo is V10 5.0l, GT3 less than 4.0l....
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Post #24 Sat, Jun 17, 7:58 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from mafalda
Gallardo is V10 5.0l, GT3 less than 4.0l....
... and a 4WD plus more than 150 bhp more than the 997 GT2 !!!
Post #25 Sat, Jun 17, 8:00 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from Euro Trash
so it wasnt wet
even though the 997 GT2 handles much better than the Zonda F and Koenigsegg CCR in the wet !!!
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