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Post #331 Fri, Sep 14, 7:58 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from Richard Owen
Howe incredible is this? I think we might have to do another Sultan update soon and give you mad props!

And btw, thank you for your compliments
http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #332 Fri, Sep 14, 8:04 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from basman007
I can't blame him. It has taken me 6 times before I got it right. I'm sure I've got it right now
He´s such a genius and so are you!
Post #333 Fri, Sep 14, 8:48 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

btw, what about creating a 962 registry over here?

I think we can do better than 962.com and improve a lot including pics, Roll of Honour, etc...

would be a big improvement to SCN to have such a registry besides i.e the Zonda registry and the Nurburgring lap times

these alse should not just be handled as sticky threads but in different way

Post #334 Fri, Sep 14, 8:54 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from ajzahn
He´s such a genius and so are you!
Indeed he is. Now that I've really looked into the Dauer 962 LM during the last week or so I've really come to appreaciate it (I was allways an Schuppan über alles kind of guy).
Thanks for the compliment, but I don't think you can put me on the same level as Jochen Dauer hehe

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #335 Fri, Sep 14, 8:56 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from basman007
Indeed he is. Now that I've really looked into the Dauer 962 LM during the last week or so I've really come to appreaciate it (I was allways an Schuppan über alles kind of guy).
Thanks for the compliment, but I don't think you can put me on the same level as Jochen Dauer hehe
at least you´re trying hard
Post #336 Fri, Sep 14, 9:01 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from ajzahn
btw, what about creating a 962 registry over here?

I think we can do better than 962.com and improve a lot including pics, Roll of Honour, etc...

would be a big improvement to SCN to have such a registry besides i.e the Zonda registry and the Nurburgring lap times

these alse should not just be handled as sticky threads but in different way
I'd be up for that. I also want a CLK GTR registry. Just like we allready have a XJ220 S TWR registry. The best place would probably be the car pictures forum. Though I don't think the SCN system is the best for registry's, since you can't have pictures in the text.. It would get pretty messy/complicated I'd imagine.
http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #337 Fri, Sep 14, 10:14 AM
menoy36
Supercar Messiah - 6317

Quote from basman007

After being confused and riddled about the Dauer's since October last year, I now finally know wich is wich. Especially #169 (the homologation car) was a hard one, because at one point in it's life it looked exactly the same as #133 (that went to Brunei). Unfortunately almost all the yellow/yellow cars in my gallery appeared to be #169, instead of #133, so I had to take those out. On a happy note: I had enough material (articles and vids), where I could take out picstures of #133 Though not taken during nice photoshoots, they do give a good view of the car.

A couple dozen new pictures of #133 can be found at the bottem of the Dauer Gallery:
http://www.supercars.net/gallery/129612/976/5.html

Besides being shown on the Frankfurt, Dubai and Singepore Autoshows I also think #133 was at the Buenos Aires, Argentina Autoshow.

As for how many went to Brunei, 5 or 6? In an interview in (probably) late 1993 (at the time of the Singapore Autoshow, Jochen Dauer states that 6 Dauers were sold allready. Maybe that's the complete Brunei order?

I think these 11 pictures show #133 (with different rims and springs in rear suspension) how it went to Brunei the first time (the 2nd time was in 1997, after it had had been refitted with a red interior, tinted windows, different wheels and the semi-automatic gearbox in the middle of the cockpit):
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658860&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658861&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658865&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658871&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658880&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658881&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658882&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658884&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658885&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658887&last=true&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=5&pID=658858&first=true


BTW: I've also added three new pictures of #172, the black car, to the gallery.

:D Love the tyres on the engine pic...
Scuderia Seicento

Post #338 Fri, Sep 14, 8:31 PM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from menoy36
:D Love the tyres on the engine pic...

Post #339 Fri, Sep 14, 11:18 PM
yuma80
retired member - 651

Hi!

Finally SCnet was able to send me a password!
From now on I will use this nick - my old one was yuma (but only for exactely one post).

@basmann

Well, It will be hard to create a CLK-GTR Registry!
I myself tried one long ago. I quit it because of the lack of information...
For example: I wasn't able to figure out at least the total production of that car up until today. There are four theories, which I read/heard of:

1) 25 Coupes + 5 Roadsters + 4-6 Racecars

2) 20 Coupes + 5 Roadsters + 4-6 Racecars

3) 25 Coupes including the Racecars + 5 Roadster

4) 25 on the whole

Greetings


Edited by yuma80 - Fri, Sep 14, 11:20 PM
Post #340 Fri, Sep 14, 11:23 PM
menoy36
Supercar Messiah - 6317

Quote from ajzahn
Mmm... these don't have 962 Le Mans written on them
Scuderia Seicento

Post #341 Sat, Sep 15, 1:29 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from yuma80
Hi!

Finally SCnet was able to send me a password!
From now on I will use this nick - my old one was yuma (but only for exactely one post).

@basmann

Well, It will be hard to create a CLK-GTR Registry!
I myself tried one long ago. I quit it because of the lack of information...
For example: I wasn't able to figure out at least the total production of that car up until today. There are four theories, which I read/heard of:

1) 25 Coupes + 5 Roadsters + 4-6 Racecars

2) 20 Coupes + 5 Roadsters + 4-6 Racecars

3) 25 Coupes including the Racecars + 5 Roadster

4) 25 on the whole

Greetings
Finally
We'd better not make a discussion out of this in this thread to keep it on topic, but I've think there are 25+5.

@ Axel, do you know why Dauer, while still in business, doesn't have a website?

+ two more (unfortunetaly tiny) pictures I forgot yesterday:

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #342 Sat, Sep 15, 1:40 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Bump for page 13..
http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #343 Sat, Sep 15, 7:08 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from basman007
Finally
We'd better not make a discussion out of this in this thread to keep it on topic, but I've think there are 25+5.

@ Axel, do you know why Dauer, while still in business, doesn't have a website?

+ two more (unfortunetaly tiny) pictures I forgot yesterday:
some of you may remember 962.com, the site was brought up by me and my friend/partner Joachim Gärtner

after some intervention by Porsche adn dauer working on some new projects, the site came down

sooner or alter there´ll be a new one to be brought up by me and my friend/partner, can´t wait to get a green light

Post #344 Thu, Sep 20, 2:11 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

the carbon/Kevlar Dauer 962 LM has been sold!
it is currently undergoing a service and then goes to China

Post #345 Thu, Sep 20, 2:19 AM
menoy36
Supercar Messiah - 6317

aj - have you ever sat or had a ride in the 962?
Scuderia Seicento

Post #346 Thu, Sep 20, 3:01 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from ajzahn
the carbon/Kevlar Dauer 962 LM has been sold!
it is currently undergoing a service and then goes to China
To China... Do you know the name of the buyer?
That car has been for sale my whole e-life

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #347 Thu, Sep 20, 3:24 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from menoy36
aj - have you ever sat or had a ride in the 962?
just took part in the AutoBild photoshooting, had a seat in it and drove in front of it with the photographer laying in the trunk of my A4 station wagon and taking action shots from the front while it was driving. Also drove behind it through the streets of the city of Nuremberg and so was caught on photo in the A4 behind it

awesome car to get your hands on, to see driving, to hear in action and even to sit in

immediately attracted a crowd when refueling at a gas station


Edited by ajzahn - Thu, Sep 20, 6:13 AM
Post #348 Thu, Sep 20, 5:31 AM
menoy36
Supercar Messiah - 6317

Quote from ajzahn
just took part in the AutoBild photoshooting, had a seat in it and drove in front of it with the photographer laying in the trunk of my A4 station wagon and taking action shots from the front while it was driving. Also drove behind it through the streets of the city of Nuremberg and so was caught on photo in the A4 behind it

awesome car to get your hands on, to see driving, to hear in action and even to sit in

immediately attracted a crowd when refueling at a gas station
Did you find it claustrophobic?
Scuderia Seicento

Post #349 Thu, Sep 20, 6:15 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62425

Quote from menoy36
Did you find it claustrophobic?
not at all since I´m just about 6.55 ft tall, also had about 5-7 kgs less at that time 4 years ago
Post #350 Thu, Sep 20, 6:24 AM
menoy36
Supercar Messiah - 6317

Quote from ajzahn
not at all since I´m just about 6.55 ft tall, also had about 5-7 kgs less at that time 4 years ago
I know - I checked the stats thread And don't use that silly imperial system, especially for height!
Scuderia Seicento

Post #351 Fri, Sep 28, 1:18 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

- Ferrari Venice & TR Spider update -



Ferrari 456 Venice Spider - 9 pictures of the green car

Ferrari 456 Venice Estate - 5 pictures of the silver car, 7 pictures of the green car

Ferrari 456 Venice Sedan - 1 picture of the yellow car

Ferrari Testarossa Spider - 4 pictures

Ferrari 512 TR Spider - 5 pictures of the blue car, 2 pictures of the black car

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/129612/976/6.html



This is the information I've got on the 11 Brunei TR Spiders:

FER TR SPYDER BP8899 EFF109
FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 - Red/Black
FER TR SPYDER BP8998 EFF111 - Anthracite/Black
FER TR SPYDER BK75 EFF112 - White/Black
FER TR SPYDER DPD EFF113 - Light Green/Light Green

FER TR SPYDER BP8988 EFG086 - Anthracite/Black
FER TR SPYDER DPD EFG087 - Silver/Red
FER TR SPYDER BP8778 EFG088 - Purple/Black
FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089
FER TR SPYDER BN6326 EFG090 - Silver/Black
FER TR SPYDER BN1779 EFG091 - Blue-Green/Black

The first five start with EFF, while the other six start with EFG. FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 is the only one of those that I think is red + I've got pictures of a red Testarossa Spider. So maybe EFF stands for Testarossa Spider and EFG for 512TR Spider. If this assumption is true, then I can fill in the only blank spot with the blue 512TR that got pictured in Rome during Ferrari's 50th anniversary and in Singapore during Ferrari's 60th Anniversary:

FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089 - Blue/Black - When in Rome, it was wearing the 'DPD' plates) - s/n #97310



There are three TR Spiders pictured in the gallery:

FER TR SPYDER BP8988 EFG086 - Anthracite/Black
512 TR Spider, spotted in Hong Kong

FER TR SPYDER BP8890 EFF110 - Red/Black
Testarossa Spider, spotted in Singapore during the festivities for the Ferrari 60th Relay. It was wearing Hong Seh stickers, so I think it is owned by Hong Seh (Singapore's Ferrari Dealer).

FER TR SPYDER BP8898 EFG089 - Blue/Black
512TR Spider, spotted in Singapore during the festivities for the Ferrari 60th Relay. It was wearing Hong Seh stickers, so I think it is owned by Hong Seh (Singapore's Ferrari Dealer). It was also photographed in Rome during Ferrari's 50th Anniversary. At that time it was wearing the 'DPD' plates. Serialnumber of this car is #97310.

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #352 Fri, Sep 28, 8:06 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Since this thread also got the Dauer 962 LM as a sub-topic () I'll mention Yuma's Dauer gallery featuring the non-Brunei Dauers:
http://www.supercars.net/gallery/145841/1555/1.html

Nice work, Yuma!

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

Post #353 Sat, Sep 29, 10:53 AM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

And the rest of the Ferrari update.
http://www.supercars.net/gallery/129612/976/6.html



+ Ferrari 550 Spider - 2 pictures
It would be nice if someone else could confirm this, but according to a source Pininfarina presented, in 1997, at the same time the Ferrari F50 Bolide was presented to the Brunei Royals, their plans for a Ferrari 550 Maranello Spider, Sedan and Estate version, just like the Venice project.
At the time it was unknown wether this new project was given the go-ahead, but now we know that at least a start was made at the 550 Maranello Spider project, because a black Spider has been seen driving around Monaco.




+ Ferrari 288 GTO - 2 pictures
The GTO photographed from above is #55671. It was first delivered to Ron Stratton in England who drove it back there from Maranello with a journalist riding shotgun to document what they were like to live with.
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE ARTICLE?

After a conversion by Pininfarina it appeared in Brunei as:
FER F288 GTO BM9988 ZFFPA16B000055671
Dark Slate with Red Stripe (instead of the standard black stripe). It has a black interior with red piping on the seats.
It's hard to tell wether this is the same car that I've got allready a picture of in the gallery (the one next to the yellow Venice Estate).

The red one in the glass house must be: FER F288 GTO BN1212 ZFFPA16B000056641:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667124&first=true




+ Ferrari F40 - 3 pictures
Two new pictures of the F40 that was for sale @ Talacrest. That is seriously a killer colour

Is this an F40? Could it be the prototype that chilidog said was in the glass house?
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667158&first=true
(save it and zoom in )(or am I starting to get cross eyed from looking at tiny pics ?)

Also, check out the picture of the four F40's in Brunei -> you can clearly see prince Hakim's batlogo embroired in the seats of the black F40
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=450966&first=true




+ Ferrari F50 - 15 pictures
Seen at the Coys auction, wearing British registration 'N637 HTE'.
Spotted on the streets of Dublin, Ireland (now owned by Alan Hanly). With plates '206-PN-07'
The story goes that there are 2 red ex-Brunei RHD F50's in the UK now, but I can't confirm this (yet).

The drawing of the green Ferrari F50 on top of Pininfarina's roof was done by Pininfarina Senior Designer Maurizio Corbi, the same that did the drawing of the McLaren F1 LM. I believe this is one of the Pininfarina Brunei F50's, but don't have solid confirmation. Can someone confirm or deny this?

Also, I added 4 pictures of the 2 Marconi F50's, that were stuck at Pininfarina for RHD conversion which was never performed, because of the Brunei crisis.

Does anyone know if there are LHD F50's in the Brunei garages?




+ Ferrari 512TR - 11 pictures
Sn/ #95660, now in British hands.




+ Ferrari 456GT Speciale - 1 picture
This was one of Prince Jefri's Beverly Hills cars. This Ferrari 456 has a Mercedes-Benz gated 5-speed automatic transmission, and looks somewhat different than a regular Ferrari 456GT.




+ Ferrari F40 LM - 1 picture
Ferrari F40 LM #88523 was sold new to the Brunei Royal Family in december 1990. It appears on the big list as follows:
FER F40 LM KF7899 ZFFGX34X0L0088523
I think this is the black F40 photographed in the glass house:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667153&first=true

Another F40 LM that has a link to Brunei is #92237:
1991 - James McLean, Newport Beach, CA, USA
1992/apr/14 - Talacrest Ltd., Egham, UK
1992 - Hong Seh Motors ptl., Singapore for Sultan of Brunei
1993/may/10 - Vintage Motorcar Co., USA via Talacrest
1993/jun - $895k - EAS
1993/sep - Art Sports, J
1996/apr - $850k - Shin Takei, J
I wonder if this car spent any time with members of the Royal Family, it could very wel be...



http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html


Edited by basman007 - Sat, Sep 29, 10:58 AM
Post #354 Sun, Sep 30, 6:32 PM
Richard Owen
It's Your Birt - 2025

Quote from basman007
And the rest of the Ferrari update.
http://www.supercars.net/gallery/129612/976/6.html



+ Ferrari 550 Spider - 2 pictures
It would be nice if someone else could confirm this, but according to a source Pininfarina presented, in 1997, at the same time the Ferrari F50 Bolide was presented to the Brunei Royals, their plans for a Ferrari 550 Maranello Spider, Sedan and Estate version, just like the Venice project.
At the time it was unknown wether this new project was given the go-ahead, but now we know that at least a start was made at the 550 Maranello Spider project, because a black Spider has been seen driving around Monaco.




+ Ferrari 288 GTO - 2 pictures
The GTO photographed from above is #55671. It was first delivered to Ron Stratton in England who drove it back there from Maranello with a journalist riding shotgun to document what they were like to live with.
COULD SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE ARTICLE?

After a conversion by Pininfarina it appeared in Brunei as:
FER F288 GTO BM9988 ZFFPA16B000055671
Dark Slate with Red Stripe (instead of the standard black stripe). It has a black interior with red piping on the seats.
It's hard to tell wether this is the same car that I've got allready a picture of in the gallery (the one next to the yellow Venice Estate).

The red one in the glass house must be: FER F288 GTO BN1212 ZFFPA16B000056641:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667124&first=true




+ Ferrari F40 - 3 pictures
Two new pictures of the F40 that was for sale @ Talacrest. That is seriously a killer colour

Is this an F40? Could it be the prototype that chilidog said was in the glass house?
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667158&first=true
(save it and zoom in )(or am I starting to get cross eyed from looking at tiny pics ?)

Also, check out the picture of the four F40's in Brunei -> you can clearly see prince Hakim's batlogo embroired in the seats of the black F40
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=450966&first=true




+ Ferrari F50 - 15 pictures
Seen at the Coys auction, wearing British registration 'N637 HTE'.
Spotted on the streets of Dublin, Ireland (now owned by Alan Hanly). With plates '206-PN-07'
The story goes that there are 2 red ex-Brunei RHD F50's in the UK now, but I can't confirm this (yet).

The drawing of the green Ferrari F50 on top of Pininfarina's roof was done by Pininfarina Senior Designer Maurizio Corbi, the same that did the drawing of the McLaren F1 LM. I believe this is one of the Pininfarina Brunei F50's, but don't have solid confirmation. Can someone confirm or deny this?

Also, I added 4 pictures of the 2 Marconi F50's, that were stuck at Pininfarina for RHD conversion which was never performed, because of the Brunei crisis.

Does anyone know if there are LHD F50's in the Brunei garages?




+ Ferrari 512TR - 11 pictures
Sn/ #95660, now in British hands.




+ Ferrari 456GT Speciale - 1 picture
This was one of Prince Jefri's Beverly Hills cars. This Ferrari 456 has a Mercedes-Benz gated 5-speed automatic transmission, and looks somewhat different than a regular Ferrari 456GT.




+ Ferrari F40 LM - 1 picture
Ferrari F40 LM #88523 was sold new to the Brunei Royal Family in december 1990. It appears on the big list as follows:
FER F40 LM KF7899 ZFFGX34X0L0088523
I think this is the black F40 photographed in the glass house:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=6&pID=667153&first=true

Another F40 LM that has a link to Brunei is #92237:
1991 - James McLean, Newport Beach, CA, USA
1992/apr/14 - Talacrest Ltd., Egham, UK
1992 - Hong Seh Motors ptl., Singapore for Sultan of Brunei
1993/may/10 - Vintage Motorcar Co., USA via Talacrest
1993/jun - $895k - EAS
1993/sep - Art Sports, J
1996/apr - $850k - Shin Takei, J
I wonder if this car spent any time with members of the Royal Family, it could very wel be...


Nice work, do you think that's all the Ferraris covered? or do we have more to discover?
Be happy while you're living, for you're a long time dead.

Post #355 Sun, Sep 30, 11:28 PM
basman007
Brunei Addict - 20842

Quote from Richard Owen
Nice work, do you think that's all the Ferraris covered? or do we have more to discover?
You mean Special Edition Ferrari's? I don't know. You never know if you run into something, but for now that's almost all I've come across.
I'd love to see more pictures of the all different coloured GTO's, TR Spiders and well actually all the other special cars that we haven't seen before But information wise we've covered most of it, including the 550 Special Project.

I was still wondering about this picture btw. Can anyone help me?

http://www.supercars.net/garage2/129612/galleries.html

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